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From: "Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com>
To: Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
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> Whoa… let’s be clear.

Actually, Ekr was clear ... he just left out a few crucial details ;-).

According to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational/history/, draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational was approved by the IESG in early March and is now in AUTH48 (Authors’ final review) state at the RFC Editor.

Thanks, --David

From: tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Joseph Touch
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 6:57 PM
To: Eric Rescorla
Cc: Mike Bishop; tsvwg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Whoa… let’s be clear.

At this time, all we know is that there is a DRAFT proposing to change the process. That draft itself has not been published.

So it’s premature to claim that the draft represents IETF consensus yet; as such, it HAS NOT **YET** affected anything.

Joe


On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com<mailto:ekr@rtfm.com>> wrote:

Keeping in mind that the target is publication as an Informational RFC, I believe the governing BCP definition is still https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-4.2.2, which says

4.2.2  Informational

   An "Informational" specification is published for the general
   information of the Internet community, and does not represent an
   Internet community consensus or recommendation.  The Informational
   designation is intended to provide for the timely publication of a
   very broad range of responsible informational documents from many
   sources, subject only to editorial considerations and to verification
   that there has been adequate coordination with the standards process
   (see section 4.2.3).

Does anyone think that's been updated?

Indeed it has:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-04

-Ekr

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