Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 18 June 2020 02:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020
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Ask and ye shall receive: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8789 On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:15 PM Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> wrote: > Auth48 != published. > > Until the doc is announced as an RFC, it remains a draft. > > Joe > > On Jun 11, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Black, David <David.Black@dell.com> wrote: > > > > > Whoa… let’s be clear. > > > > Actually, Ekr was clear ... he just left out a few crucial details ;-). > > > > According to > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational/history/, > draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational was approved by the IESG > in early March and is now in AUTH48 (Authors’ final review) state at the > RFC Editor. > > > > Thanks, --David > > > > *From:* tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Joseph Touch > *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2020 6:57 PM > *To:* Eric Rescorla > *Cc:* Mike Bishop; tsvwg@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): > draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020 > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > Whoa… let’s be clear. > > > > At this time, all we know is that there is a DRAFT proposing to change the > process. That draft itself has not been published. > > > > So it’s premature to claim that the draft represents IETF consensus yet; > as such, it HAS NOT **YET** affected anything. > > > > Joe > > > > On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > > > > Keeping in mind that the target is publication as an Informational RFC, I > believe the governing BCP definition is still > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-4.2.2, which says > > > > 4.2.2 Informational > > An "Informational" specification is published for the general > information of the Internet community, and does not represent an > Internet community consensus or recommendation. The Informational > designation is intended to provide for the timely publication of a > very broad range of responsible informational documents from many > sources, subject only to editorial considerations and to verification > that there has been adequate coordination with the standards process > (see section 4.2.3). > > > > Does anyone think that's been updated? > > > > Indeed it has: > > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-04 > > > > -Ekr > > > >
- [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-tsvw… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Paul Vixie
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Mike Bishop
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Paul Vixie
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Joseph Touch
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Joe Touch
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Rodney W. Grimes
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Mike Bishop
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Kyle Rose
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Roni Even
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): … Tom Herbert
- Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-… Holland, Jake
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): … Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Christopher Wood
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Martin Thomson
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Colin Perkins
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Colin Perkins
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draf… Kyle Rose
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-s… Dirk.von-Hugo
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-s… Joseph Touch
- Re: [tsvwg] [saag] [Int-area] 3rd WGLC (limited-s… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-s… tom petch
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-s… Spencer Dawkins at IETF