Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 18 June 2020 02:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020
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Ask and ye shall receive:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8789


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:15 PM Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> wrote:

> Auth48 != published.
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> Until the doc is announced as an RFC, it remains a draft.
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> Joe
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> On Jun 11, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Black, David <David.Black@dell.com> wrote:
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> > Whoa… let’s be clear.
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> Actually, Ekr was clear ... he just left out a few crucial details ;-).
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> According to
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational/history/,
> draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational was approved by the IESG
> in early March and is now in AUTH48 (Authors’ final review) state at the
> RFC Editor.
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> Thanks, --David
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> *From:* tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Joseph Touch
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2020 6:57 PM
> *To:* Eric Rescorla
> *Cc:* Mike Bishop; tsvwg@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [tsvwg] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope):
> draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020
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> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
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> Whoa… let’s be clear.
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> At this time, all we know is that there is a DRAFT proposing to change the
> process. That draft itself has not been published.
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> So it’s premature to claim that the draft represents IETF consensus yet;
> as such, it HAS NOT **YET** affected anything.
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> Joe
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> On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
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> Keeping in mind that the target is publication as an Informational RFC, I
> believe the governing BCP definition is still
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-4.2.2, which says
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> 4.2.2  Informational
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>    An "Informational" specification is published for the general
>    information of the Internet community, and does not represent an
>    Internet community consensus or recommendation.  The Informational
>    designation is intended to provide for the timely publication of a
>    very broad range of responsible informational documents from many
>    sources, subject only to editorial considerations and to verification
>    that there has been adequate coordination with the standards process
>    (see section 4.2.3).
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> Does anyone think that's been updated?
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> Indeed it has:
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> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-04
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> -Ekr
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