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Re: [GNAP] physical person

Jim Willeke <jim@willeke.com> Mon, 14 December 2020 08:52 UTC

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From: Jim Willeke <jim@willeke.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 03:51:30 -0500
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Yes, I agree.
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-jim
Jim Willeke


On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 5:31 PM Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones@gmail.com>
wrote:

> agree w/ Fabien on that point.  My own preference would be to call the RO
> an entity, which means a named object.
> Peace ..tom
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:23 PM Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> For end user at least, we wanted to convey that it is a real person.
>>
>> The case is different for the RO, indeed here person would be enough I
>> believe.
>>
>> Fabien
>>
>>
>> Le dim. 13 déc. 2020 à 21:20, Jim Willeke <jim@willeke.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> A natural person is usually implied to be a Human Being.
>>> As in jurisprudence, fundamental human rights are implicitly granted
>>> only to Natural Persons.
>>>
>>> A person or entity seems to be more appropriate.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -jim
>>> Jim Willeke
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 1:44 PM Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't thinking about that, but yes.
>>>> Natural person would be good. I change it in the wiki.
>>>>
>>>> Thxs
>>>> Fabien
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 7:07 PM Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I dislike this. A robot can be a physical person. What's wrong with
>>>>> natural person that others use?
>>>>> Peace ..tom
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