Re: [Txauth] Name suggestion for next round...

Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> Thu, 28 May 2020 14:37 UTC

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Hi Vijay,

Sorry to say this, but according to the process put forward by the chairs, the cut-off for suggesting new names has already passed. Now the group is looking for feedback on the existing list of candidates, not for additional candidates. 

In addition, AuthX is an existing company name in this space: https://www.authx.com/

 — Justin

> On May 28, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Vijay IETF <vijay.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to suggest AuthX for inclusion in the next round...
> 
> Why AuthX?
> 
> The group's draft charter includes concepts, not in words but perhaps by induction, from the realms of identity, authorization, and authentication. 
> 
> 1. The X in AuthX indicates that.
> 2. It's simple.
> 3. Avoids the unproductive conversations on the semantics of Transaction.
> 4. It indicates that the group is open to exploring all things X (known, unknown) wrt identity, authorization, authentication.
> 
> No matter how narrow we try to scope the charter down, those are inescapable and related concepts. 
> 
> Witness the massive confusion thrust upon developers arising from OIDC and OAuth2 specifications coming from two different organizations on concepts that in my mind are inseparable from a systems perspective.
> 
> Specifications that are not self contained are confusing at minimum. And do a disservice to the wider community at worst when they punt on something fundamental and related as being out of scope.
> 
> If we are breaking from the past then it behoves upon us to not repeat the mistakes from the past.
> 
> - Vijay
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