Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth WG
Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com> Sat, 07 March 2020 15:06 UTC
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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 10:06:29 -0500
From: Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com>
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Subject: Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth WG
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Hello Everyone, I am relatively new here and in fact only been reading OIDC spec for past 6-8 months. I am still trying to grasp the TxAuth by watching Justin's talks and posts. I am here to mostly see and hopefully participate in some corners of this spec. > 1. Do you support the charter text provided at the end of this email? > Or do you have major objections, blocking concerns or feedback (if so > please elaborate)? Yes. > 2. Are you willing to author or participate in the development of the > drafts of this WG? Yes > 3. Are you willing to help review the drafts of this WG? Yes > 4. Are you interested in implementing drafts of this WG? Yes On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > It appears that momentum is forming around the proposed formation of a > TxAuth working group. We’d like to more formally gauge interest in > proceeding with this work. Please do so by responding to the following > questions: > > 1. Do you support the charter text provided at the end of this email? > Or do you have major objections, blocking concerns or feedback (if so > please elaborate)? > > 2. Are you willing to author or participate in the development of the > drafts of this WG? > > 3. Are you willing to help review the drafts of this WG? > > 4. Are you interested in implementing drafts of this WG? > > The call will run for two weeks, until March 21. If you think that the > charter should be amended In a significant way, please reply on a > separate thread. > > The feedback provided here will help the IESG come to a decision on the > formation of a new WG. Given the constraints of the chartering process, > regardless of the outcome of this consensus call, we will be meeting in > Vancouver as a BoF. > > Thanks, > Yaron and Dick > > --- Charter Text Follows --- > > This group is chartered to develop a fine-grained delegation protocol > for authorization, identity, and API access. This protocol will allow > an authorizing party to delegate access to client software through an > authorization server. It will expand upon the uses cases currently > supported by OAuth 2.0 and OpenID Connect (itself an extension of OAuth > 2.0) to support authorizations scoped as narrowly as a single > transaction, provide a clear framework for interaction among all > parties involved in the protocol flow, and remove unnecessary > dependence on a browser or user-agent for coordinating interactions. > > The delegation process will be acted upon by multiple parties in the > protocol, each performing a specific role. The protocol will decouple > the interaction channels, such as the end user’s browser, from the > delegation channel, which happens directly between the client and the > authorization server (in contrast with OAuth 2.0 which is initiated by > the client redirecting the user’s browser). The client and AS will > involve a user to make an authorization decision as necessary through > interaction mechanisms indicated by the protocol. This decoupling > avoids many of the security concerns and technical challenges of OAuth > 2.0 and provides a non-invasive path for supporting future types of > clients and interaction channels. > > Additionally, the delegation process will allow for: > > - Fine-grained specification of access > - Approval of AS attestation to identity claims > - Approval of access to multiple resources and APIs in a single > interaction > - Separation between the party authorizing access and the party > operating the client requesting access > - A variety of client applications, including Web, mobile, single-page, > and interaction-constrained applications > > The group will define extension points for this protocol to allow for > flexibility in areas including: > > - Cryptographic agility for keys, message signatures, and proof of > possession > - User interaction mechanisms including web and non-web methods > - Mechanisms for conveying user, software, organization, and other > pieces of information used in authorization decisions > - Mechanisms for presenting tokens to resource servers and binding > resource requests to tokens and associated cryptographic keys > - Optimized inclusion of additional information through the delegation > process (including identity) > > Additionally, the group will provide mechanisms for management of the > protocol lifecycle including: > > - Discovery of the authorization server > - Revocation of active tokens > - Query of token rights by resource servers > > Although the artifacts for this work are not intended or expected to be > backwards-compatible with OAuth 2.0 or OpenID Connect, the group will > attempt to simplify migrating from OAuth 2.0 and OpenID Connect to the > new protocol where possible. > > This group is not chartered to develop extensions to OAuth 2.0, and as > such will focus on new technological solutions not necessarily > compatible with OAuth 2.0. Functionality that builds directly on OAuth > 2.0 will be developed in the OAuth Working Group, including > functionality back-ported from the protocol developed here to OAuth 2.0. > > The group is chartered to develop mechanisms for applying cryptographic > methods, such as JOSE and COSE, to the delegation process. This group > is not chartered to develop new cryptographic methods. > > The initial work will focus on using HTTP for communication between the > client and the authorization server, taking advantage of optimization > features of HTTP2 and HTTP3 where possible, and will strive to enable > simple mapping to other protocols such as COAP when doing so does not > conflict with the primary focus. > > Milestones to include: > - Core delegation protocol > - Key presentation mechanism bindings to the core protocol for TLS, > detached HTTP signature, and embedded HTTP signatures > - Identity and authentication conveyance mechanisms > - Guidelines for use of protocol extension points > > > -- > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >
- [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth WG Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Aaron Parecki
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Aleksei Petrov
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Amanjeev Sethi
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … David Skaife
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Leif Johansson
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Florian Biesinger
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Lee McGovern
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Daniel DeGroff
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Sudipta Pal
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Dmitri Zagidulin
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Fabien Imbault
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Matthew De Haast
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Fabien Imbault
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Stephen Moore
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Tobias Looker
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Richard Backman, Annabelle
- Re: [Txauth] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for charter cons… Mike Jones
- Re: [Txauth] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for charter cons… Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Mike Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Aaron Parecki
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Mike Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … David Skaife
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Vladimir Dzhuvinov
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Mike Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … David Skaife
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Nat Sakimura
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Vittorio Bertocci
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Vijay IETF
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Mike Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Kim
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Brian Campbell
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Nat Sakimura
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Call for charter consensus - TxAuth … Justin Richer