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Re: [GNAP] Terminology PR

Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones@gmail.com> Wed, 06 January 2021 21:27 UTC

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:27:16 -0800
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Right - the correct term should be *subjects' information* as there are
potentially two subjects, the RO and the "end-user" (really terribly
confusing name). If you consider the case where the end-user is the parent
of a child, or of their spouse, both subjects will be asked to supply
information in order to be authenticated.
Peace ..tom


On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 5:20 AM Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> The original requirement for "subject" comes from the reference to
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-secevent-subject-identifiers-06
> (used in the main text). The objective was to try to avoid various terms
> which are synonyms.
>
> You're right, it's close to a legal entity, except from the fact that it
> is defined more broadly (person, organization or device), which is
> something we can encounter for the RO for instance.
>
> For instance we had previous discussions where the RO was defined as :
> "personal or organizational entity"
> which I replaced in the latest draft by
> "subject entity" (since it is defined)
>
> For "Subject Information", the question whether this refers to the
> end-user or the RO is currently left open.
>
> Please let me know your thoughts.
>
> Cheers
> Fabien
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 8:38 PM Mark Lizar <mark@openconsent.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Fabien,  et al,
>>
>> Great start!!
>>
>> Could you clarify the use and application of the term subject, as the
>> term is used in some legal standards for semantics and I wonder if this is
>> related to the legal semantic attribution of data subject.
>>
>> In the glossary,  it also seems the Subject Entity is referring to what
>> is commonly know as legal entity.   And the term subject can refer to a few
>> things at this technical level.— e.g.  a semantic term referencing in
>> general the *topic* of the resource  or is it the* legal entity
>> / credential *that corresponds to the accountable controller of a
>> resource ?
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>> On 5 Jan 2021, at 08:04, Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I wish you all a happy new year.
>>
>> I just created a PR (
>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-gnap/gnap-core-protocol/pull/155) that takes
>> into account the various feedbacks. The automatic build process is not
>> working, but you can see the diffs and build the html locally if you
>> prefer. The definitions have also been updated on the wiki (
>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-gnap/gnap-core-protocol/wiki/Terminology) if
>> you prefer to check there.
>>
>> Feedbacks welcome before we move to pending merge later on.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Fabien
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