[GNAP] Re: Francesca Palombini's No Objection on draft-ietf-gnap-resource-servers-09: (with COMMENT)

Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com> Thu, 03 October 2024 07:23 UTC

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From: Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
To: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>
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Sounds good, thanks for the clarification!

Francesca

From: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 2 October 2024 at 18:46
To: Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [GNAP] Francesca Palombini's No Objection on draft-ietf-gnap-resource-servers-09: (with COMMENT)
Hi Francesca,

Good observation about the IANA registries — I think we actually meant to have these both be Specification Required, matching what’s in GNAP Core. I remember we did change them in GNAP core, largely because when I wrote the text I didn’t realize that Specification Required also included Expert Review as a step. :) The rest of the IANA directions would stay the same.

 — Justin

> On Oct 2, 2024, at 11:57 AM, Francesca Palombini via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
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> Francesca Palombini has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-gnap-resource-servers-09: No Objection
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> Thank you for this document.
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> One question about the new IANA registries with Expert Review policy. They do
> contain a Reference field, which seems to imply that a specification should be
> publicly available. Experts guidelines are also given to check that the
> definition for each registered parameter is valid, which I assume would be in
> such a specification. However nowhere it is stated that the specification
> should be public (and stable?).
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> You could do like in RFC 7595 and add some text covering the fact that the
> Expert should check the specification exists and "if no permanent, citable
> specification (...) is included, credible reasons for not providing it SHOULD
> be given." This gives more flexibility than Specification required, while
> covering the requirement on the specification.
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