Re: [GNAP] physical person
Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com> Mon, 14 December 2020 08:57 UTC
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From: Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:57:39 +0100
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Subject: Re: [GNAP] physical person
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Thanks for your inputs, we can try to update the definition of RO using "entity". Currently we have : person acting on its own or representing an organization, that may grant privileges on resources he has authority upon Alternative 1 : personal or organizational entity that may grant privileges on resources it has authority upon Alternative 2 : entity that may grant privileges on resources it has authority upon What do you think? Cheers Fabien On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:52 AM Jim Willeke <jim@willeke.com> wrote: > Yes, I agree. > -- > -jim > Jim Willeke > > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 5:31 PM Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> agree w/ Fabien on that point. My own preference would be to call the RO >> an entity, which means a named object. >> Peace ..tom >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:23 PM Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> For end user at least, we wanted to convey that it is a real person. >>> >>> The case is different for the RO, indeed here person would be enough I >>> believe. >>> >>> Fabien >>> >>> >>> Le dim. 13 déc. 2020 à 21:20, Jim Willeke <jim@willeke.com> a écrit : >>> >>>> A natural person is usually implied to be a Human Being. >>>> As in jurisprudence, fundamental human rights are implicitly granted >>>> only to Natural Persons. >>>> >>>> A person or entity seems to be more appropriate. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -jim >>>> Jim Willeke >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 1:44 PM Fabien Imbault < >>>> fabien.imbault@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Wasn't thinking about that, but yes. >>>>> Natural person would be good. I change it in the wiki. >>>>> >>>>> Thxs >>>>> Fabien >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 7:07 PM Tom Jones < >>>>> thomasclinganjones@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I dislike this. A robot can be a physical person. What's wrong with >>>>>> natural person that others use? >>>>>> Peace ..tom >>>>>> -- >>>>>> TXAuth mailing list >>>>>> TXAuth@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> TXAuth mailing list >>>>> TXAuth@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> TXAuth mailing list >>>> TXAuth@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >>>> >>> -- >>> TXAuth mailing list >>> TXAuth@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >>> >>
- [GNAP] physical person Tom Jones
- Re: [GNAP] physical person Fabien Imbault
- Re: [GNAP] physical person Jim Willeke
- Re: [GNAP] physical person Fabien Imbault
- Re: [GNAP] physical person Tom Jones
- Re: [GNAP] physical person Jim Willeke
- Re: [GNAP] physical person Fabien Imbault
- Re: [GNAP] physical person Tom Jones
- Re: [GNAP] physical person Fabien Imbault