Re: [Tzdist] Fwd: [tzdist] #32 (service): managing historical data

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 10 December 2014 10:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tzdist] Fwd: [tzdist] #32 (service): managing historical data
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I would agree with Lester that this shouldn't be optional, but I also
don't know that one should be able to query a version.  I wonder why the
entire schema past the point of the name of the publisher should be
specified at all, since the semantics beyond that point will depend on
the structure of the information provided, and we are not in the
business of specifying that structure.

It is true that VCALENDAR is not a perfect match for response in all
cases.  This is where I think Accept: comes in, when it matters.

Eliot

On 12/9/14, 11:56 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 09/12/14 22:44, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>> Just to note that I am in favour of including an optional version
>> number in the spec using the previously discussed /versions/{version}
>> approach.
> But if it is made optional, how do you ensure that you are using the
> same data as another information source. Pray that both are published
> with the same version?
>