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Re: [Unbearable] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-tokbind-https-14: (with COMMENT)

John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> Tue, 05 June 2018 19:28 UTC

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From: John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 21:28:34 +0200
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To: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
Cc: Nick Harper <nharper@google.com>, Dirk Balfanz <balfanz@google.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Tokbind WG <unbearable@ietf.org>, tokbind-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-tokbind-https@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Unbearable] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-tokbind-https-14: (with COMMENT)
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I think adding a non normative reference to the current draft of tls13 is
fine.  The data tracker will have the forward reference to the final spec
if someone follows it.

John B.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 9:07 PM Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:

> On 6/5/18 2:01 PM, Nick Harper wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
>
>> Then please add an informative reference to draft-ietf-tokbind-tls13.
>>
>> /a
>>
> The reason for splitting off draft-ietf-tokbind-tls13 into a separate
> draft was so that publication of draft-ietf-tls-tls13 doesn't delay
> publication of the 3 core tokbind drafts (draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol,
> draft-ietf-tokbind-negotiation, and draft-ietf-tokbind-https). It sounds
> like adding a reference to draft-ietf-tokbind-tls13 would result in
> postponing publication of at least this draft until both
> draft-ietf-tls-tls13 and draft-ietf-tokbind-tls13 get published.
>
>
> It would if the reference were normative. This is why I said "informative
> reference" above.
>
> /a
>

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