Re: [Unbearable] Mirja Kühlewind's No Record on draft-ietf-tokbind-https-13: (with COMMENT)

Dirk Balfanz <balfanz@google.com> Wed, 02 May 2018 00:32 UTC

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From: Dirk Balfanz <balfanz@google.com>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 00:32:30 +0000
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Thanks for the feedback. I incorporated it into
draft draft-ietf-tokbind-https-14.

Dirk.


On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:01 AM Mirja Kühlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
wrote:

> Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-tokbind-https-13: No Record
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> Maybe use normative SHOULDs in sec 8.2:
> "HTTPS clients such as Web user agents should therefore provide a user
>    interface for discarding Token Binding key pairs"
> and
> "the user agent should also
>    discard Token Binding key pairs from such modes after the session is
> over"
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> Nit:
> 1) In abstract: s/This Internet-Draft/This document/
> 2) Maybe provide a refernce for SAML
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