Re: [Uri-review] In WG last call review of URI Schemes rtsp, rtsps and rtspu

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 27 April 2012 14:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] In WG last call review of URI Schemes rtsp, rtsps and rtspu
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Howdy,

The registrations below note that there were changes in URI syntax.  I
could not find a summary of
them in 2326bis; can you provide a pointer?

rtsp was already registered in the URI Schemes registry as permanent;
significant changes to the syntax
would probably require minting a new scheme to avoid the
interoperability problems you note below.

regards,

Ted

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Magnus Westerlund
<magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is currently an ongoing WG last call on RTSP 2.0.
> The WGLC ends on May 16th, 2012.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc2326bis/
>
>
> 22.14.  URI Schemes
>
>   This specification defines two URI schemes ("rtsp" and "rtsps") and
>   reserves a third one ("rtspu").  These URI schemes are defined in
>   existing registries which are not created by RTSP.  Registrations are
>   following RFC 4395[RFC4395].
>
> 22.14.1.  The rtsp URI Scheme
>
>   URI scheme name:  rtsp
>
>   Status:  Permanent
>
>   URI scheme syntax:  See Section 20.2.1 of RFC XXXX.
>
>   URI scheme semantics:  The rtsp scheme is used to indicate resources
>         accessible through the usage of the Real-time Streaming
>         Protocol (RTSP).  RTSP allows different operations on the
>         resource identified by the URI, but the primary purpose is the
>         streaming delivery of the resource to a client.  However, the
>         operations that are currently defined are: DESCRIBE,
>         GET_PARAMETER, OPTIONS, PLAY, PLAY_NOTIFY, PAUSE, SETUP,
>         SET_PARAMETER, and TEARDOWN.
>
>   Encoding considerations:  IRIs in this scheme are defined and needs
>         to be encoded as RTSP URIs when used within the RTSP protocol.
>         That encoding is done according to RFC 3987.
>
>   Applications/protocols that use this URI scheme name:  RTSP 1.0 (RFC
>         2326), RTSP 2.0 (RFC XXXX)
>
>
>
>
>
> Schulzrinne, et al.    Expires September 13, 2012             [Page 222]
>
> Internet-Draft   Real Time Streaming Protocol 2.0 (RTSP)      March 2012
>
>
>   Interoperability considerations:  The change in URI syntax performed
>         between RTSP 1.0 and 2.0 can create interoperability issues.
>
>   Security considerations:  All the security threats identified in
>         Section 7 of RFC 3986 applies also to this scheme.  They need
>         to be reviewed and considered in any implementation utilizing
>         this scheme.
>
>   Contact:  Magnus Westerlund, magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com
>
>   Author/Change controller:  IETF
>
>   References:  RFC 2326, RFC 3986, RFC 3987, RFC XXXX
>
> 22.14.2.  The rtsps URI Scheme
>
>   URI scheme name:  rtsps
>
>   Status:  Permanent
>
>   URI scheme syntax:  See Section 20.2.1 of RFC XXXX.
>
>   URI scheme semantics:  The rtsps scheme is used to indicate resources
>         accessible through the usage of the Real-time Streaming
>         Protocol (RTSP) over TLS.  RTSP allows different operations on
>         the resource identified by the URI, but the primary purpose is
>         the streaming delivery of the resource to a client.  However,
>         the operations that are currently defined are: DESCRIBE,
>         GET_PARAMETER, OPTIONS, PLAY, PLAY_NOTIFY, PAUSE, SETUP,
>         SET_PARAMETER, and TEARDOWN.
>
>   Encoding considerations:  IRIs in this scheme are defined and needs
>         to be encoded as RTSP URIs when used within the RTSP protocol.
>         That encoding is done according to RFC 3987.
>
>   Applications/protocols that use this URI scheme name:  RTSP 1.0 (RFC
>         2326), RTSP 2.0 (RFC XXXX)
>
>   Interoperability considerations:  The change in URI syntax performed
>         between RTSP 1.0 and 2.0 can create interoperability issues.
>
>   Security considerations:  All the security threats identified in
>         Section 7 of RFC 3986 applies also to this scheme.  They need
>         to be reviewed and considered in any implementation utilizing
>         this scheme.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Schulzrinne, et al.    Expires September 13, 2012             [Page 223]
>
> Internet-Draft   Real Time Streaming Protocol 2.0 (RTSP)      March 2012
>
>
>   Contact:  Magnus Westerlund, magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com
>
>   Author/Change controller:  IETF
>
>   References:  RFC 2326, RFC 3986, RFC 3987, RFC XXXX
>
> 22.14.3.  The rtspu URI Scheme
>
>   URI scheme name:  rtspu
>
>   Status:  Permanent
>
>   URI scheme syntax:  See Section 3.2 of RFC 2326.
>
>   URI scheme semantics:  The rtspu scheme is used to indicate resources
>         accessible through the usage of the Real-time Streaming
>         Protocol (RTSP) over unreliable datagram transport.  RTSP
>         allows different operations on the resource identified by the
>         URI, but the primary purpose is the streaming delivery of the
>         resource to a client.  However, the operations that are
>         currently defined are: DESCRIBE, GET_PARAMETER, OPTIONS, PLAY,
>         PLAY_NOTIFY, PAUSE, SETUP, SET_PARAMETER, and TEARDOWN.
>
>   Encoding considerations:  IRIs in this scheme are not defined.
>
>   Applications/protocols that use this URI scheme name:  RTSP 1.0 (RFC
>         2326)
>
>   Interoperability considerations:  The definition of the transport
>         mechanism of RTSP over UDP has interoperability issues.  That
>         makes the usage of this scheme problematic.
>
>   Security considerations:  All the security threats identified in
>         Section 7 of RFC 3986 applies also to this scheme.  They needs
>         to be reviewed and considered in any implementation utilizing
>         this scheme.
>
>   Contact:  Magnus Westerlund, magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com
>
>   Author/Change controller:  IETF
>
>   References:  RFC 2326
>
>
> --
>
> Magnus Westerlund
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