Re: [Uri-review] Request for review
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 19 May 2020 15:46 UTC
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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 08:45:33 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] Request for review
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Hi Tim, Thanks for the pointer to the draft. I think there are two issues here which are large enough that you may wish to think about the implied architecture. The first is a syntactic issue: the use of "#" as the only delimiter in the proposed URIs. As RFC 3986 describes it, the "#" delimiter is used for identifying fragments and is thus dependent on the MIME type of the retrieved object: The fragment's format and resolution is therefore dependent on the media type [RFC2046 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2046>] of a potentially retrieved representation, even though such a retrieval is only performed if the URI is dereferenced. This does not appear to match your usage. The usage you appear to be seeking is a transposition of the string to a subdomain of a well-known domain, so that a client can attempt retrieval via the three methods you enumerate; it is not clear from the document whether there will ever be more than one permitted domain here. A simpler implementation would appear to be drop:drop-string.well-known-domain.example. Second, your document appears to imply that the drop string is used to augment existing telephone numbers and addresses, but it is not terribly clear how it does this. One interpretation might be that the drop-string functions as a permanent identifier with the current telephone number, address, or other contact methods being available as a retrieved resource. This section: Primarily functioning as a locator there are three ways to get to a 'drop' URI resource, http, srv records, and private resolution for anything not found using the previous two methods. The first, or default, action is when an application invokes the 'drop' URI it will cause a lookup for matching application information starting with an A record [RFC1035], then on to Service records [RFC2782], and then on to other available records that may offer a new rule set for resolution. raises a problem with this approach: the records returned by SRV are fundamentally different, in that they are onward pointers to other domains and resolutions. If the implication is that HTTP is always used to retrieve drop records and the appropriate server is discovered by either using an A record, an SRV record, or private resolution, then this section needs a major re-write (to include AAAA records and to clarify the intent). It's also not clear what long lived utility a new scheme serves here if the result is always https://some-string.discovered-domain.example/ . If there were a different guarantee of uniqueness than the DNS, this would seem closer to a URN than other URI forms, or possibly an implementation of the handle system (as DOIs are). There is, unfortunately, not enough detail in the draft on the overall system to be confident of that. regards, Ted Hardie On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 6:21 PM Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This is a request for a review of the 'drop' URI scheme. The draft can be > found here < https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcsweeney-drop-scheme/>gt;. > Thank you. > > Sincerely, > Tim McSweeney > _______________________________________________ > Uri-review mailing list > Uri-review@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uri-review >
- [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Henry S. Thompson
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Ted Hardie
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Daniel R. Tobias
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Daniel R. Tobias
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Daniel R. Tobias
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Daniel R. Tobias
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Erik Wilde
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Dave Thaler
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Dave Thaler
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Dave Thaler
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Ted Hardie
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Michael Wojcik
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Michael Wojcik
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Daniel R. Tobias
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Larry Masinter
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Thomas Fruin
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Henry S. Thompson
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Daniel R. Tobias
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Uri-review] Request for review Timothy Mcsweeney