Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not registered?
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Mon, 26 November 2012 20:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not registered?
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Agreed. We would register it immediately as historical. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4395#section-4 On 11/26/12 1:27 PM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) wrote: > Looping the XMPP wg list. If we register it, let's make sure that > registration says "DO NOT USE IN THE FUTURE". > > On 11/26/12 11:50 AM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote: > >> On 11/26/12 9:37 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> On 2012-11-26 16:28, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> On 11/25/12 5:04 AM, Graham Klyne wrote: >>>>> I've just been digging around the XMPP specs, and I notive they >>>>> make reference to required namespaces of the form "jabber:client" >>>>> and "jabber:server" (cf. >>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3920#section-11.2, esp sect 11.2.2). >>>>> >>>>> Examples in sections 8 and 9 of that spec reinforce the indication >>>>> that jabber: is being used as a URI scheme (rather than a namespace >>>>> prefix). >>>> >>>> The 'jabber:' string was used in the earliest days of the jabberd >>>> server project when the core developers didn't really understand XML >>>> namespaces (which were quite new at the time). It is not a URI scheme, >>>> just a mistake. :) >>>> >>>>> But looking at http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html I'm >>>>> not seeing any mention of jabber:. >>>>> >>>>> Assuming I'm reading this right... it's probably unfortunate that >>>>> that this use of jabber: has come about (like dav: before it?) but >>>>> I guess it's now entrenched and should at least be registered? >>>> >>>> I have never registered it and I hesitate to do so now because I think >>>> it would cause more confusion than it's worth. We do have the 'xmpp:' >>>> URI scheme for pointing to JabberIDs. >>>> ... >>> >>> I think it would still be good to have it in the registry, and have the >>> documentation explain what's going on. >>> >>> I believe the "DAV:" scheme was created for the same purpose, and we >>> have documented that in >>> <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc4918.html#rfc.section.21.1>. >> >> Thanks for the pointer. And yes, as with "DAV:", the "jabber:" prefix >> was defined before standard best practices emerged for XML namespaces... >> >> Peter >> >> -- >> Peter Saint-Andre >> https://stpeter.im/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> apps-discuss mailing list >> apps-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss
- [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not register… Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Barry Leiba
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Larry Masinter
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre