Re: [Uri-review] Request for URI schemes assigned to OPC UA

Randy Armstrong <randy.armstrong@opcfoundation.org> Tue, 23 May 2017 16:04 UTC

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To: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] Request for URI schemes assigned to OPC UA
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The URN conforms  to:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2141


Other than that the specification leaves it up to the implementer to choose something globally unique.

Implementers also have the option of using the http scheme as the application URI.


Is there a reason to register a URN scheme when we don't care about the content of the URN?

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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:34:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] Request for URI schemes assigned to OPC UA

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:30 AM, Randy Armstrong <randy.armstrong@opcfoundation.org<mailto:randy.armstrong@opcfoundation.org>> wrote:

1) We use the schemes for URLs that identify multiple network paths to a single resource which is identified with a URI that uses the 'urn' scheme. It is not clear to me that registration is required for this usage. Please advise.


Would you mind identify which URN nid you are using?  I did not see one listed here:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml#urn-namespaces-1

that was obvious.

regards,

Ted



2) The specs is an IEC specification as well (see https://webstore.iec.ch/publication/21993 ). In addition, the text quoted is old. Anyone can download the specifications from the OPC Foundation website today.













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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] Request for URI schemes assigned to OPC UA

I have two objections here to permanent registration:

1. The specifications appear to be non-open "Note: Access to specifications and
developer resources are available to OPC Foundation members only."

2. The use of multiple URI schemes to access the same resource goes against
principles of web architecture [http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-aliases].

This topic has been discussed previously on this list: see thread at [1].

[1]
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=uri-review&gbt=1&index=ze2I30iloSGZxlP2vAeCWcPOWus

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On 22/05/2017 22:04, Randy Armstrong wrote:
> Scheme name:
>
> opc.tcp       :  OPC UA Connection Protocol over TCP/IP
> opc.amqp  :  OPC UA Connection Protocol over AMQP
> opc.wss      :  OPC UA Connection Protocol over WebSockets
>
> We expect to add new schemes as time goes on.
>
> Status:  permanent
>
> Applications/protocols that use this scheme name:
>
> Applications which implement the OPC UA Connection Protocol defined by the OPC Unified Architecture specification:
> https://opcfoundation.org/developer-tools/specifications-unified-architecture
>
> The opc.tcp scheme has been in use in the field for about 10 years (we were unaware of the registration process).
> Note that the OPC Foundation has a trademark on the term "OPC" (see US Trademark #78732560)
>
> Contact:
> Randy Armstrong
> tcb@opcfoundation.org<mailto:tcb@opcfoundation.org>
>
> Change controller:
> OPC Foundation
> https://opcfoundation.org/
>
> References:
> The protocols and schemes are defined in Part 6: Mappings:
> http://www.opcfoundation.org/UA/Part6/
>
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