Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not registered?
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Mon, 26 November 2012 18:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not registered?
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On 11/26/12 9:37 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2012-11-26 16:28, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 11/25/12 5:04 AM, Graham Klyne wrote: >>> I've just been digging around the XMPP specs, and I notive they >>> make reference to required namespaces of the form "jabber:client" >>> and "jabber:server" (cf. >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3920#section-11.2, esp sect 11.2.2). >>> >>> Examples in sections 8 and 9 of that spec reinforce the indication >>> that jabber: is being used as a URI scheme (rather than a namespace >>> prefix). >> >> The 'jabber:' string was used in the earliest days of the jabberd >> server project when the core developers didn't really understand XML >> namespaces (which were quite new at the time). It is not a URI scheme, >> just a mistake. :) >> >>> But looking at http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html I'm >>> not seeing any mention of jabber:. >>> >>> Assuming I'm reading this right... it's probably unfortunate that >>> that this use of jabber: has come about (like dav: before it?) but >>> I guess it's now entrenched and should at least be registered? >> >> I have never registered it and I hesitate to do so now because I think >> it would cause more confusion than it's worth. We do have the 'xmpp:' >> URI scheme for pointing to JabberIDs. >> ... > > I think it would still be good to have it in the registry, and have the > documentation explain what's going on. > > I believe the "DAV:" scheme was created for the same purpose, and we > have documented that in > <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc4918.html#rfc.section.21.1>. Thanks for the pointer. And yes, as with "DAV:", the "jabber:" prefix was defined before standard best practices emerged for XML namespaces... Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
- [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not register… Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Barry Leiba
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Larry Masinter
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] XMPP jabber: URI … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] XMPP jabber: URI scheme not regi… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] [xmpp] XMPP jabber: URI scheme n… Peter Saint-Andre