Re: [Uri-review] PKCS#11 URI registration request review

Darren J Moffat <Darren.Moffat@Oracle.COM> Tue, 12 February 2013 10:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] PKCS#11 URI registration request review
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On 02/11/13 23:07, Larry Masinter wrote:
> It's completely unclear to me what advantage you get from having this stuff packed into a URI rather than some XML/JSON data structure, which would more easily address the I18N and other issues.
> It seems like the applicability of this "scheme" is to fit into a "URI" slot in some protocol that doesn't need to be a URI but just some other kind of Identifier.


A URI is easily specified in a configuration file or a configuration 
property of something else.

We already use the PKCS#11 URI syntax in Solaris in a number of places.

Our PKCS#11 OpenSSL ENGINE uses it for locating RSA/DSA priviate keys in 
PKCS#11 tokens.

You can use a PKCS#11 URI as the location of a wrapping key in a ZFS 
dataset property.  XML/JSON would be highly in appropriate there. eg:

  # zfs create -o encryption=on \
    -o keysource=raw,pkcs11:token=KMS;object=MyKey

Admins aren't going to hand craft XML/JSON in either of these cases.


> I'm willing to believe there's a justification and that the document just doesn't give it.
>
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: uri-review-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:uri-review-bounces@ietf.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jan Pechanec
>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 5:29 PM
>> To: uri-review@ietf.org
>> Cc: Darren.Moffat@oracle.com
>> Subject: Re: [Uri-review] PKCS#11 URI registration request review
>>
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Jan Pechanec wrote:
>>
>> 	hi, the section 5.2 of RFC 4395 notes "Allow a reasonable time
>> for discussion and comments. Four weeks is reasonable for a permanent
>> registration requests."
>>
>> 	I will wait for two more weeks if there is any feedback (which
>> would be greatly appreciated) to make it 4 weeks in total, and if there
>> is none I will continue with the next step, which is the submission to
>> iana@iana.org.
>>
>> 	regards, Jan.
>>
>>> 	hello,
>>>
>>> 	in accordance with section "5.2. Registration Procedures" of RFC
>>> 4395 "Guidelines and Registration Procedures for New URI Schemes", I
>>> respectfully request a review for our planned permanent registration
>>> request of the PKCS#11 URI as specified in the following I-D:
>>>
>>> 	http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pechanec-pkcs11uri-08
>>>
>>> 	the registration template is attached.
>>>
>>> 	best regards, Jan Pechanec
>>>
>>>
>>
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