Re: request for assignment of informal urn
Peter Saint-Andre - &yet <peter@andyet.net> Thu, 26 February 2015 04:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: request for assignment of informal urn
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On 2/25/15 8:37 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote: > <yoshiki.sameshima.vf@hitachi-solutions.com> writes: >> As a result, our urn is a form of UUID/ISBN + FILENAME + EPUBCFI. > > For some reason, I overlooked the FILENAME component. That's a mistake > on my part. > > But it means that we can't look at these as simply "UUID/ISBN plus > fragment identifier (EPUBCFI)". > > An alternative syntax would be if the FILENAME information could be > included in the EPUBCFI. But I expect that you've verfied that there is > no good way to do that. > > I can see why you'd need a new namespace, because you need the > additional FILENAME information in the URN proper. But fragment identifiers are disallowed by RFC 2141. This registration can't go forward until the URNBIS work completes. At which point, I think it would be better to define real namespaces (e.g., it's likely that the ISBN namespace will be updated to allow f-components) instead of forcing it into an informal namespace. I STRONGLY encourage the authors of this registration to read the latest URNBIS document and provide feedback on the urn@ietf.org list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc2141bis-urn/ Coordination with Juha Hakala about the ISBN namespace would also be very beneficial. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://andyet.com/
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- request for assignment of informal urn yoshiki.sameshima.vf
- Re: request for assignment of informal urn Dale R. Worley
- Re: request for assignment of informal urn Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: request for assignment of informal urn yoshiki.sameshima.vf
- Re: request for assignment of informal urn yoshiki.sameshima.vf
- Re: request for assignment of informal urn Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: request for assignment of informal urn Dale R. Worley
- Re: Re: request for assignment of informal urn Dale R. Worley
- Re: request for assignment of informal urn Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: request for assignment of informal urn Dale R. Worley