Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 21 June 2019 21:52 UTC

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Cc: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>, urn@ietf.org, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, LUPO Caterina <caterina.lupo@gmail.com>, Pierluigi Spinosa <pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
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Unfortunately I will need to do this next week, but I have put time on my calendar to make sure it happens!

Sent from mobile, might be terse 

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 6:57 AM, Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> wrote:
> 
> Ciao Peter,
>    thank you very much for that!
> 
> Best regards
>    Enrico
> 
> 
> Il sab 15 giu 2019, 15:50 Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> ha scritto:
>> Ciao Enrico,
>> 
>> My apologies for the delay. I will reply in this thread and all the
>> others next week.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 6/15/19 3:12 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote:
>> > Dear All,
>> >    sorry to disturb you again, I'm just back to you because I was
>> > contacted again about the status of the possible urn:lex rfc, as the
>> > official recommendation mentioned in my message below is about to be
>> > released.
>> > I do appreciate your feedback on that,
>> > thanks!
>> > 
>> > Best regards
>> >    Enrico
>> > 
>> > Il gio 6 giu 2019, 12:44 Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
>> > <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>> ha scritto:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Peter and Alexey,
>> >        we have just received by the "Agenzia per l’Italia Digitale"
>> >     (Agency for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority for information
>> >     technologies in the public administration, a request for news about
>> >     the status of URN:LEX. They wish to make reference to URN:LEX as an
>> >     IETF standard in an official recommendation for Italian public
>> >     administrations aimed to be publish by next July.
>> >     We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the status of the
>> >     publication procedure as RFC.
>> > 
>> >     Thanks a lot for your collaboration!
>> >     Best regards
>> > 
>> >        Enrico
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     ---
>> >     Enrico Francesconi
>> >     ITTIG - CNR
>> >     Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques
>> >     Italian National Research Council
>> > 
>> >     Via de' Barucci 20
>> >     50127 Florence
>> >     Italy
>> > 
>> >     Tel: +39-055-4399-665
>> >     Fax: +39-055-4399-605
>> >     email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>> > 
>> >     > On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com
>> >     <mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com>> wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     > As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published
>> >     as an
>> >     > informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen
>> >     > through normal processes before publication. However, the datatracker
>> >     > page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it appears
>> >     > that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG).
>> >     >
>> >     > Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps for
>> >     > this registration.
>> >     >
>> >     > Peter
>> >     >
>> >     > On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote:
>> >     >> Dear Dale and Peter,
>> >     >>   are there any news about the actual registration at IANA of the
>> >     urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13?
>> >     >>
>> >     >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/
>> >     >>
>> >     >> Thanks a lot for your cooperation!
>> >     >> Best regards
>> >     >>
>> >     >>   Pierluigi and Enrico
>> >     >>
>> >     >> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >     >> Enrico Francesconi
>> >     >> ITTIG - CNR
>> >     >> Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques
>> >     >> Italian National Research Council
>> >     >>
>> >     >> Via de' Barucci 20
>> >     >> 50127 Florence
>> >     >> Italy
>> >     >>
>> >     >> Tel: +39-055-4399-665
>> >     >> Fax: +39-055-4399-605
>> >     >> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>> >     >> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >     >>
>> >     >>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com
>> >     <mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com>> wrote:
>> >     >>>
>> >     >>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring
>> >     Area
>> >     >>> Director.
>> >     >>>
>> >     >>> Peter
>> >     >>>
>> >     >>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> >     >>>> In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA.
>> >     >>>>
>> >     >>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote:
>> >     >>>>> Dear Dale,
>> >     >>>>>   thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the
>> >     >>>>> responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary?
>> >     >>>>> Best
>> >     >>>>>   Enrico
>> >     >>>>>
>> >     >>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley
>> >     <worley@ariadne.com <mailto:worley@ariadne.com>
>> >     >>>>> <mailto:worley@ariadne.com <mailto:worley@ariadne.com>>> ha
>> >     scritto:
>> >     >>>>>
>> >     >>>>>   Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
>> >     <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>> >     >>>>>   <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
>> >     <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>>> writes:
>> >     >>>>>> being quite a long time since the last communication (June
>> >     2018), we
>> >     >>>>>> were wondering whether any action from our side is needed
>> >     before to
>> >     >>>>>> proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the
>> >     URN:LEX
>> >     >>>>>> namespace.
>> >     >>>>>
>> >     >>>>>   Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.  As far as I can tell
>> >     from reviewing
>> >     >>>>>   the discussion at
>> >     >>>>> 
>> >      https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we
>> >     have
>> >     >>>>>   consensus to register the namespace based on
>> >     draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13,
>> >     >>>>>   but we haven't actually notified IANA of that.  Who is it
>> >     that notifies
>> >     >>>>>   IANA?
>> >     >>>>>
>> >     >>>>>   Dale
>> >     >>>>>
>> >     >>>>
>> >     >>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >     >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn
>> >     >>>>
>> >     >>
>> > 
>> > 
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