Re: [urn] // in gnunet://, and other P2P URN's

Alfred Hönes <ah@TR-Sys.de> Sun, 21 October 2012 18:36 UTC

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In-Reply-To: <86sj997gd7.fsf_-_@gray.siamics.net> from Ivan Shmakov at Oct "20, " 2012 "02:27:32" pm
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Subject: Re: [urn] // in gnunet://, and other P2P URN's
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Ivan,
[speaking as a WG co-chair]:

since you (at least in your message) don't speak about URNs in the
sense we are talking about here (cf. the charter of the URNbis
working group and our drafts to revise RFCs 2141 and 3406),
I think the discussion you seek is out of topic for the urn list.

Please redirect your concerns and questions to some URI related list(s)
according to their specific dedication.

The particular, the uri-review (AT) ietf.org list has focus on URI
scheme registrations.  More general URI-centric lists are hosted by
the W3C.

If, OTOH, you consider solving the objectives of the envisioned 'grunet'
URI scheme using URNs, read our drafts (and their RFC predecessors) and
submit an internet-draft for the registration of an 'grunet' URN
Namespace (using identifiers starting with "urn:grunet:") and eventually
have it being discussed on the urn-nid (AT) ietf.org mailing list.

But, at first glance (please ignore this statement if you are sure
of the contrary), it looks like the identifiers sought are neither
persistent nor protocol-independent, so likely they won't fit into
the URN framework.


On Oct 20, 2012 02:27:32, Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> wrote:

>       Well, we've discussed [1] this a bit in p2p-hackers@, and it
>       seems that I've ran out of arguments by now.
>
>       The current GNUnet implementation [2] employs URI's like the
>       following one for identifying content:
>
> gnunet://fs/chk/17GU5A2CIAQMP0K0UIGI0F3SVVB1M5HCVQC74U6KQQV9LUVJHG78ID6DLNS3EKFKT6EH24QINVVFP5CEB9455I57KAE9AT1CSM98HA0.7MPI2R9LPGVIVPADTVKJBIRKQRQVVVQ5Q0N8HU8DDRHTK56P73SUPB82V356SFJQSL0H2RNHL2MLI8AM7BA3TAOS2D97K0RQ86VDVG0.14
>
>       where ...
>
[...]
>       Could this issue be clarified, please?
>
>       TIA.
>
> [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.peer-to-peer.p2p-hackers/3569
> [2] http://gnunet.org/
>
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Best regards,
  Alfred Hönes.

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