Re: [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespace registration?

[ Old thread alert! ]

Please accept my apologies - I thought we had already processed this 
request.

I will move forward on this with IANA.

Separately, I understand that the authors of draft-spinosa-urn-lex-15 
would like to publish it as an RFC through the Independent Submissions 
stream, so I will follow up on that, too.

Peter

On 5/24/20 9:53 AM, Dale R. Worley wrote:
> "Hakala, Juha E" <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi> writes:
>> The status of urn:lex request is unclear to me as well. Version 13 was
>> published ages ago
>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/) but I don't
>> know if it addressed the concerns Dale brought up in an email sent
>> April 30 2018. It seemed at that point that we were very close to
>> approving the request, so it is unfortunate that the process was
>> stalled. We should contact Enrico Francesconi and tell him what he
>> needs to do to finish the work. He did ask us the status of the
>> process last October, but I don't know if he got an answer.
> 
> My latest opinion regarding the urn:lex proposal was approval on 5 June
> 2018:
> 
>      From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley)
>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>      Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:28:24 -0400
>      Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/VpshWLYPcRfqy__xqsH5wz_BO-A>
>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>      Cc: barryleiba@computer.org, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm,
>              pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de,
>              caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org
> 
>      Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> writes:
>      > As for the issue you raised about the maintenance of the registry of
>      > jurisdiction codes, we agree at this stage to be ITTIG-CNR the
>      > Registrar. In this respect we propose the following changes:
> 
>      The changes you propose seem satisfactory to me.
> 
> I posted this comment on 11 Dec 2018:
> 
>      From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley)
>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>      Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:13:13 -0500
>      Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/71un9dFHWjatiVVsLND0HRKiC8s>
>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>      Cc: urn@ietf.org, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm,
>              L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, stpeter@stpeter.im,
>              barryleiba@computer.org
> 
>      Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> writes:
>      > being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we
>      > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to
>      > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the URN:LEX
>      > namespace.
> 
>      Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.  As far as I can tell from reviewing
>      the discussion at
>      https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we have
>      consensus to register the namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13,
>      but we haven't actually notified IANA of that.  Who is it that notifies
>      IANA?
> 
> Then there was this message on 12 Dec 2018:
> 
>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>,
>              "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>
>      Cc: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>,
>              Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com,
>              L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org
>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
>      Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:39:20 -0700
> 
>      In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA.
>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
> 
> Followed up by this on the same day:
> 
>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>,
>              "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>
>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
>      Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:30:25 -0700
>      Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/z6sx-t9fCVZ5dfCKOEbIrHe6jis>
>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>      Cc: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>,
>              Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com,
>              L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org
> 
>      Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring Area
>      Director.
>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
> 
> And then this on 4 Mar 2019:
> 
>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
>      Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 18:41:42 -0700
>      Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/2ZNAplit_W8dwQmALHh-8zLR4dk>
>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>      Cc: urn@ietf.org, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>,
>              LUPO Caterina <caterina.lupo@gmail.com>,
>              Pierluigi Spinosa <pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com>
> 
>      As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published as an
>      informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen
>      through normal processes before publication. However, the datatracker
>      page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it appears
>      that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG).
> 
>      Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps for
>      this registration.
>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
> 
> Then I have record of a few similar messages between the review group
> and our AD:
> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/g8eC8QR6Lv1jmtgDT-yCApCvUIQ>
> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/6_hLnPj9pXjM3cV-qSPGY_xkCy4>
> 
> On 17 Oct 2019, I sent this inquiry to our AD:
> 
>      From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley)
>      To: aamelnikov@fastmail.fm
>      Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:00:33 -0400
>      Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/AtoVfxYg_b7Ho-RaRGcft0CVWxg>
>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>      Cc: Enrico Francesconi <enrico.francesconi@gmail.com>,
>              pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, caterina.lupo@gmail.com,
>              stpeter@mozilla.com, urn@ietf.org
> 
>      Alexey,
> 
>      Can you get us (urn@ietf.org) an update on the processing of
>      draft-spinosa-urn-lex?
> 
>      As far as I can tell, the URN group has been satisfied with this
>      registration/I-D since last December, but its processing has been
>      stalled for reasons that are obscure.
> 
>      I understand that you are the supervising Area Director of this
>      activity, so on behalf of the URN group, I am requesting guidance from
>      you as to the next step for completing this work.
> 
> After that date, I can find no record of e-mail from our AD, either to
> me personally or the URN mailing list.
> 
> However, checking with https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/, I see that
> Alexey is no longer an ART AD, which may account for why things have
> gone awry.
> 
> Who is responsible for the next step?
> 
> Dale
> 
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