Re: [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespace registration?

Dear Peter,
   thank you very much for your collaboration!
Please let's keep in touch in case anything is yet to be done after the
registration of the draft as RFC and when the namespace will be added to
the registry.

All the best
   Pierluigi and Enrico

Il mar 15 nov 2022, 19:37 Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> ha scritto:

> FYI, I have just now (and finally) requested that IANA add this
> namespace to the registry.
>
> My apologies for the delay.
>
> Peter
>
> On 5/3/22 9:29 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > [ Old thread alert! ]
> >
> > Please accept my apologies - I thought we had already processed this
> > request.
> >
> > I will move forward on this with IANA.
> >
> > Separately, I understand that the authors of draft-spinosa-urn-lex-15
> > would like to publish it as an RFC through the Independent Submissions
> > stream, so I will follow up on that, too.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 5/24/20 9:53 AM, Dale R. Worley wrote:
> >> "Hakala, Juha E" <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi> writes:
> >>> The status of urn:lex request is unclear to me as well. Version 13 was
> >>> published ages ago
> >>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/) but I don't
> >>> know if it addressed the concerns Dale brought up in an email sent
> >>> April 30 2018. It seemed at that point that we were very close to
> >>> approving the request, so it is unfortunate that the process was
> >>> stalled. We should contact Enrico Francesconi and tell him what he
> >>> needs to do to finish the work. He did ask us the status of the
> >>> process last October, but I don't know if he got an answer.
> >>
> >> My latest opinion regarding the urn:lex proposal was approval on 5 June
> >> 2018:
> >>
> >>      From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley)
> >>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
> >>      Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:28:24 -0400
> >>      Archived-At:
> >> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/VpshWLYPcRfqy__xqsH5wz_BO-A>
> >>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
> >>      Cc: barryleiba@computer.org, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm,
> >>              pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de,
> >>              caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org
> >>
> >>      Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> writes:
> >>      > As for the issue you raised about the maintenance of the
> >> registry of
> >>      > jurisdiction codes, we agree at this stage to be ITTIG-CNR the
> >>      > Registrar. In this respect we propose the following changes:
> >>
> >>      The changes you propose seem satisfactory to me.
> >>
> >> I posted this comment on 11 Dec 2018:
> >>
> >>      From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley)
> >>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
> >>      Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:13:13 -0500
> >>      Archived-At:
> >> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/71un9dFHWjatiVVsLND0HRKiC8s>
> >>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
> >>      Cc: urn@ietf.org, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com,
> >> aamelnikov@fastmail.fm,
> >>              L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com,
> >> stpeter@stpeter.im,
> >>              barryleiba@computer.org
> >>
> >>      Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> writes:
> >>      > being quite a long time since the last communication (June
> >> 2018), we
> >>      > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed
> >> before to
> >>      > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the
> >> URN:LEX
> >>      > namespace.
> >>
> >>      Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.  As far as I can tell from
> >> reviewing
> >>      the discussion at
> >>      https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html,
> >> we have
> >>      consensus to register the namespace based on
> >> draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13,
> >>      but we haven't actually notified IANA of that.  Who is it that
> >> notifies
> >>      IANA?
> >>
> >> Then there was this message on 12 Dec 2018:
> >>
> >>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
> >>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>,
> >>              "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>
> >>      Cc: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>,
> >>              Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>,
> >> pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com,
> >>              L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org
> >>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
> >>      Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:39:20 -0700
> >>
> >>      In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA.
> >>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
> >>
> >> Followed up by this on the same day:
> >>
> >>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>,
> >>              "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>
> >>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
> >>      Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:30:25 -0700
> >>      Archived-At:
> >> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/z6sx-t9fCVZ5dfCKOEbIrHe6jis>
> >>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
> >>      Cc: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>,
> >>              Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>,
> >> pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com,
> >>              L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org
> >>
> >>      Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring
> >> Area
> >>      Director.
> >>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
> >>
> >> And then this on 4 Mar 2019:
> >>
> >>      To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
> >>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
> >>      Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 18:41:42 -0700
> >>      Archived-At:
> >> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/2ZNAplit_W8dwQmALHh-8zLR4dk>
> >>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
> >>      Cc: urn@ietf.org, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>,
> >>              LUPO Caterina <caterina.lupo@gmail.com>,
> >>              Pierluigi Spinosa <pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>      As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published
> >> as an
> >>      informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen
> >>      through normal processes before publication. However, the
> >> datatracker
> >>      page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it
> >> appears
> >>      that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG).
> >>
> >>      Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps
> >> for
> >>      this registration.
> >>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
> >>
> >> Then I have record of a few similar messages between the review group
> >> and our AD:
> >> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/g8eC8QR6Lv1jmtgDT-yCApCvUIQ>
> >> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/6_hLnPj9pXjM3cV-qSPGY_xkCy4>
> >>
> >> On 17 Oct 2019, I sent this inquiry to our AD:
> >>
> >>      From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley)
> >>      To: aamelnikov@fastmail.fm
> >>      Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:00:33 -0400
> >>      Archived-At:
> >> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/AtoVfxYg_b7Ho-RaRGcft0CVWxg>
> >>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
> >>      Cc: Enrico Francesconi <enrico.francesconi@gmail.com>,
> >>              pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, caterina.lupo@gmail.com,
> >>              stpeter@mozilla.com, urn@ietf.org
> >>
> >>      Alexey,
> >>
> >>      Can you get us (urn@ietf.org) an update on the processing of
> >>      draft-spinosa-urn-lex?
> >>
> >>      As far as I can tell, the URN group has been satisfied with this
> >>      registration/I-D since last December, but its processing has been
> >>      stalled for reasons that are obscure.
> >>
> >>      I understand that you are the supervising Area Director of this
> >>      activity, so on behalf of the URN group, I am requesting guidance
> >> from
> >>      you as to the next step for completing this work.
> >>
> >> After that date, I can find no record of e-mail from our AD, either to
> >> me personally or the URN mailing list.
> >>
> >> However, checking with https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/, I see that
> >> Alexey is no longer an ART AD, which may account for why things have
> >> gone awry.
> >>
> >> Who is responsible for the next step?
> >>
> >> Dale
> >>
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