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Subject: Re: [urn] Request for oneM2M URN Namespace registration
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Dear Juha,=20

I have discussed the issues with the oneM2M delegates and we have updated t=
he oneM2M URN namespace with the following:

- General rule to limit NSS-restoftree to printable ASCII characters, as yo=
u proposed.=20
- parameters for the MGMT URN namespace will be part of the q-component, so=
 starting with "?=3D" as should not be part of the URN resolution. Please, =
advise if that's correct.

Best regards.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hakala, Juha E <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi>=20
Sent: 23 February 2022 08:57
To: Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com>; Miguel Angel Reina Ortega <MiguelA=
ngel.ReinaOrtega@etsi.org>
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Subject: VS: [urn] Request for oneM2M URN Namespace registration

Hello,=20

-----Alkuper=E4inen viesti-----
L=E4hett=E4j=E4: urn <urn-bounces@ietf.org> Puolesta Dale R. Worley
L=E4hetetty: keskiviikko 23. helmikuuta 2022 4.28
Vastaanottaja: Miguel Angel Reina Ortega <MiguelAngel.ReinaOrtega=3D40etsi.=
org@dmarc.ietf.org>
Kopio: urn@ietf.org; superuser@gmail.com; francesca.palombini@ericsson.com
Aihe: Re: [urn] Request for oneM2M URN Namespace registration

As ETSI is a recognized standards body, we should fast-track this.

+ 1.=20

Also, there's little specific information to review. =20

Subtree registration page=20

https://wiki.onem2m.org/index.php?title=3DOneM2M_URN_Namespace

provides additional information about oneM2M URNs, but there are some gaps.=
=20

Namespace specific strings will consist of two parts:=20

<nss-root>:<nss-restoftree>

Character set of nss-root is specified as a-z, A-Z, 0-9, but nothing is sai=
d about the character set of nss-restoftree. I suppose you could limit it t=
o printable ASCII characters, in order to eliminate the impact of Unicode c=
onfusables.=20

 Within nss-root MGMT, the nss-restoftree will have the following structure=
: =20

urn:onem2m:mgmt.:nwkType:<identifier>:[<parameters>]

I suppose the dot after mgmt is an error. If so, we get URNs like:=20

urn:onem2m:mgmt:nwkType:lora or urn:onem2m:mgmt:nwkType:ansi_c_12:parameter

Within nss-restoftree colon has two different roles in the mgmt sub-namespa=
ce. It separates both nwkType from identifier and identifier from parameter=
 (if any). This might create confusion regarding the role of the parameter,=
 since nothing in the URN syntax says that the parameter is not part of the=
 identifier. And if in the future you need to sub-divide nwkType, it might =
no longer be obvious for someone who does not know the syntax already where=
 the identifier is and whether there is a parameter.=20

Since onem2m parameters will not have a role in identification, you might b=
e better off including them as URN R-components. Since your URNs will not b=
e resolved, this should not be problematic in any way.=20

URN namespace registrations do not need to be RFCs. An RFC can be provided =
if the identifier system has not been specified elsewhere, and it is consid=
ered useful to create an RFC for this purpose (see e.g. RFC 8458; https://d=
atatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8458). In your case, I do not think that RF=
C is required or even justified. It will be easier both for you and IETF if=
 you send us just a template as specified in RFC 8141. All registrations pu=
blished as such templates are listed at https://www.iana.org/assignments/ur=
n-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml.=20

ETSI has already made one namespace registration as a template, available a=
t https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/etsi.=20

All the best,=20

Juha  =20

=20

I would recommend that the registration template specify how the NSSs are t=
o be compared, although looking at RFC 8141, it doesn't seem to be required=
.  (It used to be that specifying the comparison rule was important.)  I su=
spect that oneM2M intends to use case-sensitive comparison and largely assi=
gn NSSs in a single case.

Dale

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