Re: [urn] URN Registration for CTA

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Mon, 31 July 2023 21:57 UTC

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Hi Zack,

Thanks for making these edits. The updated version looks good to me and 
I approve.

Peter

On 7/31/23 2:53 PM, Cava, Zachary wrote:
> Thank you all for your feedback. We've added commentary on hierarchical 
> structure intent as well as addressed the two items called out by Dale. 
> Attached is the latest version.
> 
> Thanks,
> Zack
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Lars G. Svensson <lars.svensson@web.de>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2023 07:03
> *To:* urn@ietf.org <urn@ietf.org>
> *Cc:* 'Mike Bergman' <MBergman@cta.tech>; 'Alexandra Blasgen' 
> <ABlasgen@cta.tech>; 'Peter Saint-Andre' <stpeter@stpeter.im>; Cava, 
> Zachary <zachary.cava@disneystreaming.com>
> *Subject:* AW: [urn] URN Registration for CTA
> Dear all,
> 
> The proposal seems fine to me, too. I also agree with Peter's suggestion to
> explicitly add some text regarding your future plans to make the NSS
> hierarchical.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Lars
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: urn [mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org>] Im 
> Auftrag von Peter Saint-Andre
> Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Juli 2023 01:45
> An: Cava, Zachary <zachary.cava@disneystreaming.com>; urn@ietf.org
> Cc: Mike Bergman <MBergman@cta.tech>; Alexandra Blasgen <ABlasgen@cta.tech>
> Betreff: Re: [urn] URN Registration for CTA
> 
> Hi Zack,
> 
> Thanks for the clarification. You might want to say something along those
> lines in the registration. Once CTA defines further structure in the NSS, it
> can always update the registration to version 2 with IANA.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 7/28/23 4:00 PM, Cava, Zachary wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> We do intend to make the NSS syntax hierarchical but it's a work in 
>> progress at this time as we align on use cases across CTA.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Zack
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>> *From:* Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2023 09:53
>> *To:* Cava, Zachary <zachary.cava@disneystreaming.com>; urn@ietf.org 
>> <urn@ietf.org>
>> *Cc:* Mike Bergman <MBergman@cta.tech>; Alexandra Blasgen 
>> <ABlasgen@cta.tech>
>> *Subject:* Re: [urn] URN Registration for CTA Hi Zack,
>> 
>> Thank you for submitting this request. It looks to be quite
> straightforward.
>> 
>> One question: apparently the namespace is completely flat, with each 
>> NSS existing under the "root" of urn:cta. Do you foresee the need to 
>> introduce additional structure in the NSS or will they all simply be 
>> bare identifiers under the namespace root?
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 7/25/23 10:04 PM, Cava, Zachary wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Please find attached the URN namespace registration request for the 
>>> Consumer Technology Association (CTA).
>>> 
>>> Mike, Alexandra, and Myself are able to facilitate any questions you 
>>> may have with regards to this registration.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Zack
>>> 
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