Re: [urn] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-2141bis-00

Barry Leiba <> Sun, 14 October 2012 23:15 UTC

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For what it's worth, I appreciate that Peter has done this, and favour his
proposal (though I do have comments about it, which I'll get to soon).  The
working group, not the AD, decides what direction it will take, so this
isn't something I will make demands about... but I strongly encourage the
WG and the chairs to take Peter's proposal seriously.  I find the current
WG version to be far too verbose, and in a wrong direction.  If you really
think all that chat about history and background and motivation needs to be
published somewhere, I would rather see it put into the WG wiki.


On Sunday, October 14, 2012, Alfred HÎnes wrote:

> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > Folks, I must say I'm frustrated by the lack of progress in this
> > working group because I think it's important to move URNs along on the
> > standards track. I was going to provide detailed feedback on
> > draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc2141bis-urn, but that too was frustrating because
> > I disagree with so many of the authorial decisions made in producing
> > that specification. Therefore I have decided to write an alternative
> > specification of 2141bis that I hope can serve as a starting point for
> > renewed discussion within the WG. Your feedback is welcome.
> >
> > Peter
> Peter (and all),
> the situation of the WG has been discussed between our AD and the
> WG co-chairs, with background exchanges with WG document (co-)authors,
> during the past couple of weeks, just leading to an update to the WG
> milestones, but unfortunately contributing to further delay to the
> document work I'm occupied with.
> Updates to all WG documents are in progress and should be out very
> soon now.  Dealing with your counter-proposal at this stage would
> further delay the finalizing of the rfc2141bis and rfc3406bis I-D
> revisions I'm working on, with a likely negative impact on meeting
> the revised first milestone; so please admit that I personally will
> defer dealing with your I-D until the in-progress revised WG
> documents are out.
> Best regards,
>   Alfred.
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