Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bis-urn-ns-reg-01.txt
"Svensson, Lars" <L.Svensson@dnb.de> Thu, 12 January 2012 18:35 UTC
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Jonathan wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> > wrote: > > > On 2012-01-10 07:22, Juha Hakala wrote: > > I still don't see what this has to do with "location" vs "naming". > You can > > start with a locator and overload it as a name, or you can start with > a name > > and overload it as locator. > > > > The former has been done a lot with HTTP URIs, the latter is what you > seem > > to try to do with URN resolution. > > > > In the end, where's the difference? > > As I see it the significant difference between urn: and http: is that > the NID registry is administered by IETF through the RFC process, and > establishes NIDs permanently, while the domain name registries (other > than .arpa, .example, and .invalid) are administered by ICANN (with > delegation to TLDs and so on), and seem to always involve the threats > of expiration and steward corruption. [...] > I think persistence and resolvability can and should be decoupled, and > treated as separate responsibilities. +1 > Persistence is relative and to some extent subjective. I would say > that the RFC series is a pretty good bet for persistence, as are the > non-DNS registries such as media type, link relation, message header, > etc. So that is where I would set the bar - are the bindings of the > URIs in question (whether URN or HTTP) as persistent as the binding of > (say) media type name to media type? +1 Thanks, Jonathan. Excellent points! All the best, Lars **** Bitte beachten Sie die neue Internet- und E-Mail-Adresse. **** **** Please note my new internet- and email-address. **** -- Dr. Lars G. Svensson Deutsche Nationalbibliothek / Informationstechnik http://www.dnb.de/ l.svensson@dnb.de
- [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bis-ur… internet-drafts
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Juha Hakala
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Juha Hakala
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Juha Hakala
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Juha Hakala
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Juha Hakala
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Jonathan A Rees
- [urn] OT: urn:iana (was:Re: I-D Action: draft-iet… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bi… Svensson, Lars