[urn] Re: [Uri-review] Re: Re: Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to register the glue URI scheme
Chris Day <chris.day@gs1.org> Fri, 10 July 2026 14:12 UTC
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From: Chris Day <chris.day@gs1.org>
To: Brent Zundel <brent.zundel@gmail.com>, "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>
Thread-Topic: [Uri-review] Re: [urn] Re: Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to register the glue URI scheme
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Hi Brent – I suspect you’ll have the same concerns raised by each Business Authority. Please remove GS1 from your list as we are going through the process. I suspect Karla @ the GLEI will be following suit. Several of the companies you mention have business models for the bulk use of their identifiers and legalise around the usage. I’m sure you’ll factor this in when you make contact. Chris Day Technical Business Analyst AI & Data Sustainability GS1 Global Office T +44 (0)7930 909 297 M +44 (0)7930 909 297 E chris.day@gs1.org<mailto:chris.day@gs1.org> www.gs1.org<http://www.gs1.org/> [cid:image001.png@01DD107E.5C33B840]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/863f06db973540b1bc76e66151d70fb7@gs1.org?anonymous&ep=signature&ismsaljsauthenabled> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/863f06db973540b1bc76e66151d70fb7@gs1.org?anonymous&ep=signature&ismsaljsauthenabled> From: Brent Zundel <brent.zundel@gmail.com> Sent: 10 July 2026 05:09 To: Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com> Cc: Chris Day <chris.day=40gs1.org@dmarc.ietf.org>; lars.svensson=40web.de@dmarc.ietf.org; Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>; Pamela Dingle <Pamela.Dingle@microsoft.com>; Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>; Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>; uri-review@ietf.org; urn@ietf.org; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-spice-glue-id@ietf.org; spice-chairs@ietf.org; Chris Inacio <inacio@cert.org>; Anish Karmarkar <anish.karmarkar@microsoft.com>; Apoorav Trehan <Apoorav.Trehan@microsoft.com>; Babak Jahromi (CELA) <babakj@microsoft.com> Subject: [Uri-review] Re: [urn] Re: Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to register the glue URI scheme You don't often get email from brent.zundel@gmail.com<mailto:brent.zundel@gmail.com>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> In response to those who suggest that it is practical to contact each business Identifier authority and persuade them each to register their own URN scheme, I present the following data set. Business Identifier Authorities # Authority Area where it operates Identifier(s) / description link 1 Global Legal Entity Identifier Foundation (GLEIF) Global Legal Entity Identifier (LEI), a 20-character code for legal entities. (Home – GLEIF<https://www.gleif.org/en/about-lei/introducing-the-legal-entity-identifier-lei?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 2 GS1 Global Global Location Number (GLN) for legal entities, functions, physical/digital locations. (GS1<https://www.gs1.org/standards/id-keys/gln/legal-entity?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 3 Dun & Bradstreet Global D-U-N-S Number, a unique nine-digit business identifier. (Dun & Bradstreet<https://www.dnb.com/en-us/smb/duns/get-a-duns.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 4 Internal Revenue Service (IRS) United States Employer Identification Number (EIN). (IRS<https://www.irs.gov/businesses/employer-identification-number?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 5 U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) United States Central Index Key (CIK) assigned to SEC filing entities and individuals. (SEC<https://www.sec.gov/submit-filings/filer-support-resources/how-do-i-guides/look-central-index-key-cik-number?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 6 SAM.gov / U.S. General Services Administration United States federal procurement Unique Entity ID, a 12-character identifier for entities doing business with the U.S. government. (SAM.gov<https://sam.gov/content/status-tracker?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 7 Delaware Division of Corporations Delaware, United States Delaware entity file number / business entity registration records. (Division of Corporations<https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/ecorp/entitysearch/namesearch.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 8 California Secretary of State California, United States California entity number / business entity ID assigned at registration. (California Secretary of State<https://www.sos.ca.gov/business-programs/business-entities/cbs-field-status-definitions?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 9 Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) Canada Business Number (BN), a unique nine-digit business identifier. (Canada<https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/businesses/topics/business-registration/business-number-program-account.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 10 Registraire des entreprises du Québec Québec, Canada Québec Enterprise Number (NEQ). (Gouvernement du Québec<https://www.quebec.ca/en/businesses-and-self-employed-workers/start-entreprise/register-constitute-enterprise/learn-about-registration/quebec-enterprise-number-neq?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 11 Ontario Business Registry / ServiceOntario Ontario, Canada Ontario Business Identification Number (BIN). (ontario.ca<https://www.ontario.ca/page/business/start/register-your-business-online?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 12 Servicio de Administración Tributaria (SAT) Mexico Registro Federal de Contribuyentes (RFC) for legal persons. (SAT<https://www.sat.gob.mx/portal/public/tramites/inscripcion-al-rfc-pm?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 13 Receita Federal do Brasil Brazil Cadastro Nacional da Pessoa Jurídica (CNPJ). (Serviços e Informações do Brasil<https://www.gov.br/pt-br/servicos/inscrever-ou-atualizar-cadastro-nacional-de-pessoas-juridicas?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 14 ARCA / AFIP Argentina Clave Única de Identificación Tributaria (CUIT). (AFIP<https://www.afip.gob.ar/inscripcion/cuit-cdi/solicitud-cuit.asp?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 15 Servicio de Impuestos Internos (SII) Chile Rol Único Tributario (RUT). (SII<https://www.sii.cl/contribuyentes/contribuyentes_individuales/chilenos_extranjero/rol_unico_tributario.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 16 SUNAT Peru Registro Único de Contribuyentes (RUC), an 11-digit taxpayer identifier. (Renta 2019<https://emprender.sunat.gob.pe/ruc/mi-ruc/inscripcion-ruc?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 17 DIAN Colombia Registro Único Tributario (RUT) / Número de Identificación Tributaria (NIT). (DIAN<https://www.dian.gov.co/impuestos/RUT/Paginas/Consultas-RUT.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 18 Servicio de Rentas Internas (SRI) Ecuador Registro Único de Contribuyentes (RUC). (Sri Ecuador<https://www.sri.gob.ec/ruc-personas-naturales?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 19 Dirección Nacional de Ingresos Tributarios (DNIT/SET) Paraguay Registro Único de Contribuyentes (RUC). (set.gov.py<https://www.set.gov.py/web/portal-institucional/registro-%C3%BAnico-de-contribuyentes-ruc-?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 20 Dirección General de Impuestos Internos (DGII) Dominican Republic Registro Nacional de Contribuyentes (RNC). (DGII<https://dgii.gov.do/cicloContribuyente/registroRNC/Paginas/default.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 21 Superintendencia de Administración Tributaria (SAT) Guatemala Número de Identificación Tributaria (NIT). (Portal SAT<https://portal.sat.gob.gt/portal/solicitud-electronica-de-nit/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 22 Companies House United Kingdom Company number / Companies House registration number. (Find and Update Company Information<https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company-lookup/search?forward=%2Fauth-code-requests%2Fcompany%2F%7BcompanyNumber%7D%2Fconfirm&utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 23 INSEE France SIREN and SIRET identifiers for entities and establishments. (Insee<https://www.insee.fr/en/metadonnees/source/serie/s1020?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 24 Kamer van Koophandel (KVK) Netherlands KVK number in the Dutch Business Register. (KVK<https://www.kvk.nl/en/search/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 25 FPS Economy / Crossroads Bank for Enterprises (CBE/KBO) Belgium Enterprise number and establishment-unit number. (FPS Economy<https://economie.fgov.be/en/themes/enterprises/crossroads-bank-enterprises/registration-crossroads-bank?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 26 Danish Business Authority / Central Business Register (CVR) Denmark CVR number. (businessindenmark.virk.dk<https://businessindenmark.virk.dk/authorities/stat/ERST/self-service/Start_company/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 27 Brønnøysund Register Centre Norway Organisation number for legal persons. (Brønnøysundregistrene<https://www.brreg.no/en/about-us-2/our-registers/about-the-central-coordinating-register-for-legal-entities-ccr/about-the-organisation-number/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 28 Bolagsverket Sweden Organisationsnummer for companies and associations. (bolagsverket.se<https://bolagsverket.se/foretag/organisationsnummer.1207.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 29 Finnish Business Information System (PRH + Tax Administration) Finland Business ID / Y-tunnus. (YTJ<https://www.ytj.fi/en/index/businessid.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 30 e-Business Register Estonia Registry code for legal entities. (e-Äriregister<https://ariregister.rik.ee/eng?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 31 Centre of Registers Lithuania Legal entity code in the Register of Legal Entities. (Registrų Centras<https://www.registrucentras.lt/jar/p_en/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 32 Companies Registration Office (CRO) Ireland CRO register number. (CRO<https://cro.ie/services-and-help/using-services/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 33 Unternehmensregister / Handelsregister Germany Company-register records and register numbers. (Unternehmensregister<https://www.unternehmensregister.de/de/howto/search?language=en&submitaction=language&utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 34 Firmenbuch Austria Firmenbuchnummer / company register number. (Business Service Portal<https://www.usp.gv.at/themen/betrieb-und-umwelt/laufender-betrieb/firmenbuch.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 35 Swiss Federal Statistical Office (FSO) / UID Register Switzerland UID, formatted as CHE plus nine digits. (Federal Office of Civil Aviation<https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/registers/enterprise-register/enterprise-identification/uid-general.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 36 Registro Imprese / Italian Chambers of Commerce Italy Codice fiscale, Partita IVA, and REA number in business-register records. (registroimprese<https://www.registroimprese.it/codice-fiscale-p.iva-rea?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 37 Agencia Tributaria Spain Número de Identificación Fiscal (NIF) for legal persons and entities. (Agencia Tributaria<https://sede.agenciatributaria.gob.es/Sede/en_gb/censos-nif-domicilio-fiscal/solicitar-nif/nif-persona-juridica-entidad.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 38 IRN / Registo Nacional de Pessoas Coletivas (RNPC) Portugal NIPC, the legal-person identification number. (IRN<https://irn.justica.gov.pt/Servicos/Empresas-e-outras-pessoas-coletivas/Registo-Nacional-de-Pessoas-Coletivas?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 39 Ministry of Justice / National Court Register (KRS) Poland KRS number for registered entities. (Ekrs<https://ekrs.ms.gov.pl/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 40 ARES / Czech public administration Czechia IČO, the Czech organization identification number. (ARES<https://ares.gov.cz/otevrena-data/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 41 Statistical Office / Business Register Slovakia IČO, the organization identification number. (Slovak Statistics<https://slovak.statistics.sk/wps/portal/ext/services/services.ico/%21ut/p/z0/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfIjo8ziw3wCLJycDB0N3M1DDA08_fyCQ8MsAo093Mz0g1Pz9AuyHRUBcQFCAQ%21%21/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 42 National Trade Register Office (ONRC) Romania Trade-register order number and unique registration code. (Onrc<https://www.onrc.ro/index.php/en/informatii-2/informatii-rc?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 43 AJPES Slovenia Registration number for each business entity in the Slovenian Business Register. (AJPES<https://www.ajpes.si/About_AJPES/Tasks?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 44 Australian Business Register (ABR) Australia Australian Business Number (ABN), an 11-digit identifier. (Australian Business Register<https://www.abr.gov.au/business-super-funds-charities/applying-abn?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 45 Australian Securities & Investments Commission (ASIC) Australia Australian Company Number (ACN), a unique nine-digit company identifier. (ASIC<https://www.asic.gov.au/for-business-and-companies/companies/register-a-company/australian-company-number-acn/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 46 New Zealand Business Number Register New Zealand NZBN, a globally unique identifier for New Zealand businesses. (New Zealand Business Number<https://www.nzbn.govt.nz/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 47 Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA) Singapore Unique Entity Number (UEN). (ACRA<https://www.acra.gov.sg/register/business/registering-different-business-structures/local-company/registering-via-bizfile/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 48 Companies Registry / Inland Revenue Department Hong Kong Business Registration Number (BRN) as the Unique Business Identifier. (Companies Registry<https://www.cr.gov.hk/en/electronic/e-servicesportal/e-search.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 49 National Tax Agency Japan Corporate Number, a 13-digit identifier. (National Tax Agency Business Number<https://www.houjin-bangou.nta.go.jp/en/setsumei/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 50 Ministry of Corporate Affairs (MCA) India Corporate Identity Number (CIN). (Ministry of Corporate Affairs<https://www.mca.gov.in/content/mca/global/en/mca/fo-llp-services/findCinFinalSingleCom.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 51 Goods and Services Tax Network / GST Portal India GSTIN / UIN for GST-registered entities. (GST Services<https://services.gst.gov.in/services/quicklinks/searchtxp?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 52 Suruhanjaya Syarikat Malaysia (SSM) Malaysia Company, business, and LLP registration numbers. (SSM<https://www.ssm.com.my/Pages/e-Search.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 53 Online Single Submission (OSS) Indonesia Nomor Induk Berusaha (NIB), the Business Identification Number. (OSS RBA<https://oss.go.id/en?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 54 Ministry of Commerce Saudi Arabia Commercial Registration number / commercial-registration records. (Ministry of Commerce<https://mc.gov.sa/en/eservices/Pages/ServiceDetails.aspx?sID=38&utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 55 Companies and Intellectual Property Commission (CIPC) South Africa Company registration number. (CIPC<https://www.cipc.co.za/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 56 Corporate Affairs Commission (CAC) Nigeria RC number / company registration records. (Corporate Affairs Commission<https://www.cac.gov.ng/services/company-search?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 57 Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) Kenya Personal Identification Number (PIN) for businesses and other organizations. (Kenya Revenue Authority<https://www.kra.go.ke/individual/individual-pin-registration/learn-about-pin/about-pin?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 58 Ghana Revenue Authority (GRA) Ghana Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) for organizations. (Ghana Revenue Authority<https://gra.gov.gh/online-tools/verify-tin/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 59 Corporate and Business Registration Department Mauritius Business Registration Number (BRN). (Companies Mauritius<https://companies.govmu.org/cbrd/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/BusinessRegistrationAct2002.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) 60 Direction Générale des Impôts / business identifier services Morocco ICE, IF, and RC business identifiers. (Tax Administration Morocco<https://www.tax.gov.ma/wps/portal/m.dgi.ma/Mobile/Accueil/VosTeleservices/recherche%20entreprise/recherche%20%20entreprise/%21ut/p/z1/rVLLboMwEPyV9JCjtQ5QAkfCoc2rh7Y04EvFYwG3YIixSPv3NcqFQwOqVEuW7NHsY3YHGITARNzzIla8EXGl_xGz323X81fmnh5osDep5662u4fD02ZjUzhNEnwT2HT8GzBgqVCtKiGqm4RXSLKCL-n1vaR90y0UVtih7HmK3ZJKTEuU-i5QKImt5B2O0RE8JG9TnkFkoWM4lpkTwzYzYhkxksRxXWKklmXRxF4n-Xpgd2pGku55kERvHG9uJFtjbiTX-IkCs_FskjJ0MKdhOoNea6SbXN8kBPdw6jleIBCNrLWPXv64iUcKuzmd2pv843xmnjZQIxR-KQj_30G6iiGP_rHQ_ceqJFzkDYS_ZRijY7itg9oxxTfn5PPZubzmZdUfPO_uB-JqEnk%21/dz/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>) These are not all the same kind of identifier: some are tax IDs, some are company-register numbers, some are procurement IDs, and some are global standards/private-sector identifiers. But each row is a real authority or issuer with a public identifier description or lookup/registration page. On Thu, Jul 9, 2026, 10:13 AM Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com<mailto:worley@ariadne.com>> wrote: I'm not a URI reviewer but I ran into a half-baked idea that is somewhat aligned with the concept of GLUE. Let me propose it to get some feedback. What is needed is a way to record inexact, non-authoritative, indicative identifiers. These identifiers, being inexact, generally aren't used for routine data processing, but rather in exceptional situations where a human wants to investigate the supply chain of a group of things. There's a requirement that the URI can be put into a data field that "expects a URI", so it has to not be confusable with defined identifier schemes. It seems to me that this can be solved by the "data" URI scheme, which is designed to carry arbitrary (short) strings. In its simplest usage, we can carry the identifier "ship 27" by data:,ship%2027 (The comma is mandatory.) Various extensions can handle non-ASCII character sets. And as you can see, if there was a URN available for the data field, it can be used unambiguously instead of the data: URI. I can easily envision that informal conventions would arise, such as starting the string with a prefix like "foobar:" to indicate that the remainder of the string was a "foobar" identifier. In use, currently these identifiers would be read and interpreted by a human, within the context of much more information about the product that it is associated with. But I can envision that in the future, an AI system could do a decent job of doing such interpretation. Dale CONFIDENTIALITY / DISCLAIMER: The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are not to be regarded as a contractual offer or acceptance from GS1 (registered in Belgium). If you are not the addressee, or if this has been copied or sent to you in error, you must not use data herein for any purpose, you must delete it, and should inform the sender. 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