Re: [urn] listed authors

SM <sm@resistor.net> Tue, 03 July 2012 20:53 UTC

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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:37:36 -0700
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
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Hi Peter,
At 12:43 03-07-2012, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>I have mentioned this in the past, and I'll mention it again: I think
>the new bis specs need to include the authors of the original documents,
>with the new authors shown as editors. So, for instance,
>draft-ietf-urnbis-2141bis would have the following in the header:
>
>A. Hoenes, Ed.
>R. Moats
>
>Simply ripping the old authors out of the specs is disrespectful.

I don't like not listing previous authors as they deserve credit for 
most of the work.  There is an acknowledgement in 
draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc2141bis-urn-02.  One of the questions which 
would have to be answered is how to get sign-off during AUTH48 (I am 
aware of the exception clause).

I suggest contacting the previous authors instead of adding their 
names.  There was an issue (unrelated to URN) when an author was 
listed without his approval.

Regards,
-sm

P.S. The unrelated question is about providing the motivation to get work done.