Re: [urn] META URN namespace registration

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 18 November 2022 00:17 UTC

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From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
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Subject: Re: [urn] META URN namespace registration
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The namespace is now registered:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml

On 11/15/22 11:38 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Done.
> 
> On 11/14/22 9:25 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Hi Juha,
>>
>> Thanks for confirming. I will contact IANA about adding this namespace 
>> to the registry.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 11/14/22 4:34 AM, Hakala, Juha E wrote:
>>> Hello Peter; all,
>>>
>>> the latest version of the the registration request is the one sent 
>>> 2020-05-27.
>>>
>>> In this case providing additional information is useful, since it 
>>> gives potential users an idea of benefits these URNs may provide.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Juha
>>>
>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>> Lähettäjä: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
>>> Lähetetty: tiistai 8. marraskuuta 2022 22.56
>>> Vastaanottaja: Hakala, Juha E <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi>; Dale R. 
>>> Worley <worley@ariadne.com>
>>> Kopio: urn@ietf.org; Thomas Baker <tom@tombaker.org>
>>> Aihe: Re: [urn] META URN namespace registration
>>>
>>> Hello Juha,
>>>
>>> As far as I can see, this namespace identifier is ready to be 
>>> registered. For the avoidance of doubt, would you mind verifying that 
>>> the most up-to-date version is contained in the document you sent to 
>>> this list on 2020-05-27?
>>>
>>> (Although that completed registration template does not exactly 
>>> conform to RFC 8141, it errs on the side of including more 
>>> information than required by RFC 8141, so it seems acceptable to me; 
>>> but I would be happy to work with you on moving around some of the 
>>> content so that it is more
>>> conformant.)
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 5/26/20 11:49 PM, Hakala, Juha E wrote:
>>>> Hello Dale; all,
>>>>
>>>> I have made two changes to the registration request (see below). 
>>>> Please let me know if any further changes are required.
>>>>
>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>>> Lähettäjä: Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com>
>>>> Lähetetty: keskiviikko 27. toukokuuta 2020 5.55
>>>> Vastaanottaja: Hakala, Juha E <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi>
>>>> Kopio: urn@ietf.org
>>>> Aihe: Re: [urn] META URN namespace registration
>>>>
>>>> This looks good to me, except possibly these:
>>>>
>>>>       Namespace URN:META:MARC: contains URNs which identify the tags of
>>>>
>>>> You almost certainly don't want the final ":", as that presupposes 
>>>> that a sub-namespace code will follow.  Other examples use 
>>>> "URN:META:MARC".
>>>>
>>>> Juha: I have removed the final ":" from the attached version.
>>>>
>>>>       Assuming that the registered resolver base URL for urn:meta:dc is
>>>>       http://example.com/, urn:meta:dc:terms-title would be resolved by
>>>>       fetching
>>>>
>>>>       http://example.com/urn:meta:dc:terms-title
>>>>
>>>> After looking at these again, I realize that there is an open 
>>>> question whether the prefix is "dc:terms" or "dc".  There is no 
>>>> mention in the registrations that "dc:terms" is a defined 
>>>> sub-namespace, but nothing rules out that it exists.  If the 
>>>> intended prefix is "dc", then the URN should be 
>>>> "urn:meta:dc-terms-title".  If the intended prefix is "dc:terms", it 
>>>> would prevent the reader from making this mistake if you state that 
>>>> explicitly.  Indeed, if "dc" is expected to have sub-namespaces, it 
>>>> might be useful to annotate its registration with their names.
>>>>
>>>> Juha: Dublin Core has currently two namespaces, /terms/ and 
>>>> /elements/1.1/. In the registration request, there are now two 
>>>> Dublin Core -related sub-namespaces in the expanded Example 2, 
>>>> urn:meta:dc:terms and urn:meta:dc:elements1.1.
>>>>
>>>> FYI, elements from /elements/1.1/ are replicated as properties in 
>>>> /terms/, but definitions of these properties differ slightly from 
>>>> those used for elements in /elements/1.1/. Therefore property Title 
>>>> in /terms/ is not exactly the same as element Title in /elements/1.1/.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Juha
>>>>
>>>>
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