Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 04 May 2018 02:02 UTC
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To: John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>, juha.hakala@helsinki.fi
Cc: Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>, urn@ietf.org, 'Robert Sparks' <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
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From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
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Subject: Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs
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On 5/3/18 1:59 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > Hi. > > While I suggested that the URN mailing list have a look at > draft-hakala-urn-nbn-rfc3188bis-00 in my note of 23 April > forwarding the Last Call announcement to the list, Peter has > reminded me that Expert Review was never formally requested. > So, to be sure that ducks are lined up and we don't have any > last-minute surprises, I'm formally asking the Expert Review > panel to do their thing and inviting mailing list recipients to > comment as appropriate. > > Noting that, from IANA's standpoint, this is an update to an > existing reservation and that the basic transition issues are > discussed in Section 3 of RFC 8254, I believe that this request > for review is strictly pro forma. But, if anyone has comments, > I hope the members of the expert review team, especially those > who were not involved in the construction of this document, will > pay careful attention. > > URN namespace template review closes concurrent with the Last > Call on the document, i.e., on 2018-05-21. Robert Sparks pointed out to me offlist that the ABNF might not be quite right, in particular nbn_string. I suggest: OLD nbn_string = <specific per prefix> ; MUST adhere to RFC 3986 <path-rootless> syntax; ; parsers must regard nbn_strings as case-sensitive [...] Whereas the prefix is regarded as case-insensitive, NBN-strings MAY be case-sensitive at the preference of the assigning authority; parsers therefore MUST treat these as case-sensitive; any case mapping needed to introduce case-insensitivity MUST be implemented in the responsible resolution system. NEW nbn_string = path-rootless ; the "path-rootless" rule is defined in RFC 3986 [...] The structure (if any) of the nbn_string is determined by the authority for the prefix. Whereas the prefix is regarded as case-insensitive, the nbn_string MAY be case-sensitive at the preference of the assigning authority; parsers therefore MUST treat these as case-sensitive; any case mapping needed to introduce case-insensitivity is the responsibility of the relevant resolution system. Peter
- [urn] URN namespace for NBNs John C Klensin
- Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs Dale R. Worley
- Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs Hakala, Juha E
- Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs Dale R. Worley