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Re: [urn] PWID URN namespace registration with latest draft version 12

Eld Zierau <elzi@kb.dk> Mon, 21 November 2022 09:27 UTC

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From: Eld Zierau <elzi@kb.dk>
To: "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>, "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [urn] PWID URN namespace registration with latest draft version 12
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Thank you so much - this means a lot!
And I will certainly start the work of development of the PWID infrastructure, and work on it getting into a community space.
And yes, it has taken some time, but I am sure we all had our challenges, while the Pandemic was at its worst, so I understand.
Best and happy regards, Eld

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Eld Zierau
Senior Researcher PhD
The Royal Danish Library
Digital Cultural Heritage
P.O. Box 2149, 1016 Copenhagen K
Ph. +45 9132 4690 
Email: elzi@kb.dk

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 3:32 AM
To: Eld Zierau <elzi@kb.dk>; urn@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [urn] PWID URN namespace registration with latest draft version 12

I wish to second Peter's apology for our delay in finishing the PWID registration.

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> writes:
> After much discussion, the expert review team has asked IANA to 
> register the `pwid` URN namespace. Multiple revisions have resulted in 
> a registration that conforms to RFC 8141. Because it is not the expert 
> review team's role to determine the usefulness of URN namespaces (as 
> would be done in a standardization venue such as an IETF Working 
> Group), [...]

However, I would like to reiterate my previous judgment and encourage development of the PWID infrastructure:

    From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley)
    To: Eld Zierau <elzi@kb.dk>, urn@ietf.org
    Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 23:18:55 -0400
    Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/UM-CTyG8RA2y9cusFjpkKm1jiYg>

    [...]
    I particularly support the PWID proposal for the reasons I described in
    "PWID as citation"
    https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/s-CM7hcWtUeAz7ZVBF94rCHMtsQ/
    -- namely that what a PWID references is transparent enough that one
    could algorithmically transform a PWID pointing to one archive into a
    query into another archive.  This is a genuinely new capability for URNs
    (as far as I know) and only by deploying it in practice can we see what
    benefits might be obtained.

Dale

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