[urn] Re: URN Namespace Registration for International Standard Name Identifier

Paul Jessop <paul@countyanalytics.com> Thu, 12 September 2024 10:09 UTC

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From: Paul Jessop <paul@countyanalytics.com>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>, "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>
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Thanks both. All seems sensible. I will rework and resubmit.

I'm sorry about the text file format. I think I spent my energy on Mac CR/LF issues and neglected the character set mis-match!

And now that the experts are aware that the minor revision doesn’t affect anything at issue here, it can safely disappear.

Best regards,

Paul


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On 11/09/2024, 19:22, "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter@stpeter.im <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>> wrote:


In addition to Dale's feedback, which seems sensible to me, I would 
suggest the following changes:


- for the registrant, include a role address at isni.org, not Paul's 
personal email address; this can help with future communications


- because the RFC 8141 registation template does not have a "Background" 
or a "Benefits" section, move that information to the appropriate 
sections in the template (mainly "Purpose")


- move the "Character set" information to the "Syntax" section (again, 
there is no "Character set" section in the template)


- remove the sentence about current minor revisions to ISO 27729 since 
that information is rather ephemeral


Peter


On 9/11/24 10:08 AM, Dale R. Worley wrote:
> There seems every reason to approve this registration. However, I
> suggest these small changes:
> 
> - There are occurrences of the character "?" in the document that seem
> to replace non-ASCII characters in an original version. These should
> either be replaced with appropriate ASCII characters, or the document
> revised to use UTF-8 encodings of the original characters.
> 
> - Add a note for implementors that the resolution process may include
> one or more HTTP redirections. Implementors should be prepared for this
> anyway, but it's useful to warn them.
> 
> - I notice that the current registration template in RFC 8141 doesn't
> have an explicit "uniqueness and persistence" section, but I recommend
> adding a section on uniqueness to assemble these points, as there are
> certain subtleties involved:
> 
> [as already in Background] ISNI does not identify the underlying
> natural or legal person and several ISNIs may be associated with
> such a person if it presents multiple identities (such as personas)
> to the public.
> 
> [as already in Assignment] Where two ISNIs are later discovered to
> refer to the same identity, these registrations are merged, the
> unused ISNI is retained but marked as deprecated and it is linked to
> the other ISNI.
> 
> [It seems to me that what constitutes an "identity" is a *cultural*
> question, and specifically not a technical one. Perhaps ISNI-IA or
> the ISO standard has nice boilerplate to state this.]
> 
> Dale
> 
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