Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU
"Svensson, Lars" <L.Svensson@dnb.de> Mon, 16 July 2018 14:45 UTC
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From: "Svensson, Lars" <L.Svensson@dnb.de>
To: Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com>, "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.org>
CC: "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
Thread-Topic: Formal request for URN for ITU
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Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU
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Hi Scott, arriving late to this party (vacation time here...). I have no objections to this registration. That said, I _think_ there is a copy-and-paste error in the latest version. This text: [[ ITU will manage the assignment of "ITU-Sector", "SectorResource", and "SectorResourceSpecificString". When matching two ITU URNs for equivalence the rules for lexical equivalence covered in Section 3 of RFC 8141 [1] apply. The ITU process is found in the ITU URN Management [4] document. ]] should probably be only [[ When matching two ITU URNs for equivalence the rules for lexical equivalence covered in Section 3 of RFC 8141 [1] apply. ]] considering that the sentences "ITU will manage the assignment [...]" and "The ITU process [...]" are repeated a few paragraphs further down in the document. Best, Lars *** Lesen. Hören. Wissen. Deutsche Nationalbibliothek *** -- Dr. Lars G. Svensson Deutsche Nationalbibliothek Informationsinfrastruktur Adickesallee 1 60322 Frankfurt am Main Telefon: +49 69 1525-1752 Telefax: +49 69 1525-1799 mailto:l.svensson@dnb.de http://www.dnb.de > -----Original Message----- > From: urn [mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Scott Mansfield > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 1:48 PM > To: urn@ietf.org > Cc: Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com>; Peter Saint-Andre > <stpeter@mozilla.com> > Subject: [Marketing Mail] [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU > > The updates to the ITU document have been made and posted on the ITU-T website. > > Please consider this the formal request for the namespace. > > The request is attached and the updated ITU document can be found here --> > http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/Documents/ITU-URN-Management.pdf > > Regards, > -scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 6:02 PM > To: Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com>; Dale R. Worley > <worley@ariadne.com>; John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> > Cc: urn@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU > > +1. Thanks, Scott! > > Peter > > On 7/9/18 3:56 PM, Scott Mansfield wrote: > > Thanks Dale, > > > > I have the same interpretation. I will update the internal ITU document, get it > published on the ITU site and then send a formal request based on the information > provided previously. > > > > Thanks to everyone on the URN list for providing valuable comments and helping me > through this process. > > > > Regards, > > -scott. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 10:41 PM > > To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> > > Cc: Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com>; urn@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU > > > > John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> writes: > >> A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than > >> dragging it out further. > >> > >> Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and > >> namespace for ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take > >> responsibility for but T-Sector will managed. At least in the near > >> term, the only things that namespace is likely to be used for are > >> YANG-related. In the longer term, I hope the ITU will be alert > >> enough to the possibilities of disruption and confusion to be careful > >> about what other sub-namespaces might be used an to consult with this > >> list and others before doing that. > > > > I think I'm echoing John here when I say that in this conversation we've touched on > a lot of complicated tangential issues, but none of them are relevant to approving this > request. > > > > There have been a bunch of concrete "issues" raised, but as far as I can tell, all of > them are of the form "Have you considered that alternative XYZ might be better?" > And it appears that the people behind the registration either have already considered > those questions or are currently resolving them. > > > > So it seems to me that all we're waiting for is for Scott to provide the final version > of the registration request (and aligning that ITU internal document). > > > > Am I mistaken? > > > > Dale > > > > _______________________________________________ > > urn mailing list > > urn@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn > >
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