Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-example-00
Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Wed, 09 January 2013 16:42 UTC
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On 2013-01-09 17:31, Keith Moore wrote: > On 01/09/2013 11:19 AM, Michael Mealling wrote: >> Is it really 1999 all over again? Maybe I should by come CMGI stock. >> >> With a couple of noted exceptions this is one area where the W3C and >> the IETF's URN group agreed: That the definition of 'resource' is the >> thing identified by a URI. That minting any URI immediately causes its >> resource to come into being in the abstract. Some URI scheme >> specifications can restrict that it limits resource to be sequences of >> bits on a network but that is a limitation of that particular URI. We >> never set that limit for URNs. In other words, the rough consensus >> from back then was Julian is right, that ALL URIs identify 'resources' >> by definition. Merely being identified by a URI _makes_ it a resource. > > It's the cases where there is no "it" that concern me. People seem to > have gotten the idea that URNs aren't resource identifiers, but rather, > nonces. > > Keith There is no such case. Somebody mints a UUID for *something*, and at that point there is a "it". It's just not resolvable/testable. Best regards, Julian
- [urn] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-examp… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Andy Newton
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Michael Mealling
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Larry Masinter
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Larry Masinter
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Larry Masinter
- Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-exampl… Keith Moore