Re: [urn] call for comments: an alternative 2141bis document

Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> Wed, 14 November 2012 00:55 UTC

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On 11 Nov 2012, at 18:13, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> wrote:

> Personally, I think that the definition of URNs in 2141 was a mistake, and that santandre's document doesn't go far enough. URNs may have originally intended to be "persistent" and "location independent", but in practice, they intrinsically no more or less persistent or location independent as any other URL, they just happen to start with the "urn:" scheme and have a different generic syntax.


Hi Larry....as we all know, it is impossible to say that _anything_ will be persistent (even beyond our lifetimes) in this industry.

But I think that at least URNs _try_ to highlight to URN operators that they need to consider longevity (Sec 5.1 of RFC3406bis [1])
and the fact the URNs are not dependent on the DNS and the opaque NSS help towards that goal....but still requires ORG support for this to be realised (hence a dependency on ORG persistence).

Perhaps we can update 3406bis and 2141bis along these lines. That is, qualify the "persistent, location-independent" statement with qualification. 


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Renato Iannella
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[1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-saintandre-urnbis-3406bis-00