Re: [urn] URN:DOI namespace registration request

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Tue, 14 March 2023 21:47 UTC

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Hi all,

The DOI namespace has now been registered:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml

Peter

On 1/21/21 4:06 AM, Paul Jessop wrote:
> Thanks Dale,
> 
> The sound you can hear is me kicking myself for not being more precise. The third party application was of course for the registration of a *URI scheme*. These correct use of terms is as you say important.
> 
> Thanks for your support.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Paul Jessop
> Technology Advisor, The DOI Foundation
> 
> 
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> On 21/01/2021, 04:08, "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com> wrote:
> 
>      This does, of course, address my concerns, and I withdraw them.  But the
>      context on my part is probably worth explaining.
> 
>      Paul Jessop <paul@countyanalytics.com> writes:
>      > It is frustrating that someone else's provisional URI registration
>      > continues to create confusion.
> 
>      Properly, you should use "scheme" here rather than "URI".  "URI" is a
>      very general universe of identifiers, and "URNs" are a subset of them.
>      So any "namespace" of URNs is perforce a set of URIs as well.
> 
>      > To be clear, the intent of The DOI Foundation is to address the
>      > technical issues that have been raised here (which are confident we
>      > can do) and continue the URN namespace request.
> 
>      OK, that was the point that was not clear to me, that the namespace
>      registration is sponsored by the DOI Foundation.
> 
>      There was another source of confusion that DOIs as I've seen them
>      (generally in academic papers and references thereto) are usually
>      written in a form that *look* like URIs and I reflexively assumed that
>      DOIs were defined to be compatible with URI syntax, thus allowing "doi"
>      to be a URI scheme directly -- and that this was intended by the
>      Foundation.  But IIRC from this discussion, the character set in DOIs is
>      not limited to the URI character set, so even though all of the ones
>      I've seen look like URIs, they aren't.
> 
>      Dale
> 
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