IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-example-00

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Wed, 09 January 2013 16:05 UTC

Return-Path: <moore@network-heretics.com>
X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CFC11E80EC for <urn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:05:05 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -3.562
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tb1ERO7Ofsqb for <urn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:05:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553BB21F880E for <urn@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:05:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B93320A14; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:05:04 -0500 (EST)
Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:05:04 -0500
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=KvhriTiLheSM27BAr/5jTg CVHJo=; b=iB4r/ltfHUfcWT5oYkEXroCN9w5EhqHdF36DUocCx5r0yqI+uZlJe3 smnsSIyitaKt1CgwvzQeTaw2Mt7AgI29nFCfKKYXdMfCiWiZldaqj4khTLMPfqa7 bbINuBtAYxhBsPtAmhrpZMvTUVgEh7WfwSqrBvNlDxXWB3x+qEZQ8=
X-Sasl-enc: MPlYRlc1Rqq7LTGHSjOMCVstotp6nVgwnD/kvcSpCtYC 1357747503
Received: from [192.168.1.20] (unknown [65.16.145.177]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3DBB74827CB; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:05:03 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <50ED952C.8080704@network-heretics.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:05:00 -0500
From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
References: <201208162101.XAA08756@TR-Sys.de> <502DF26E.3050406@gmx.de> <50EB1560.3060602@stpeter.im> <50ECF1CC.6030208@network-heretics.com> <50ED9168.6050000@gmx.de> <50ED93E2.9040002@network-heretics.com> <50ED9430.4040606@gmx.de>
In-Reply-To: <50ED9430.4040606@gmx.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: urn@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [urn] I-D Action: draft-saintandre-urn-example-00
X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs <urn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/urn>, <mailto:urn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn>
List-Post: <mailto:urn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:urn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn>, <mailto:urn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:05:05 -0000

On 01/09/2013 11:00 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
>>> "This specification does not limit the scope of what might be a
>>> resource; rather, the term "resource" is used in a general sense for
>>> whatever might be identified by a URI." --
>>> <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc3986.html#rfc.section.1.1>
>>>
>>> Case closed.
>> yes, but it didn't anticipate that URNs would be widely used to not name
>> resources at all.
>>
>> again, most such uses do little harm.  but that's not an argument for
>> perverting URNs to be just
>> random numbers instead of resource identifiers.
>> ...
>
> My point being: they *are* resource identifiers.
Only if they actually identify resources.

Keith

v2.20.3 | Report a Bug | By Email