Re: [urn] URN registration request for SCTE

lars.svensson@web.de Fri, 23 August 2019 10:44 UTC

Return-Path: <lars.svensson@web.de>
X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC0C12080E for <urn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 03:44:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.698
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=web.de
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EtVxdwxnSNJk for <urn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 03:44:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.17.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59CA9120810 for <urn@ietf.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 03:44:03 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1566557041; bh=Uox1UWXAc2VL8D4Nk2Ej0qmUmEhNSdvcnp6kl+syfQ0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=TbEIMFizgp6BYvaZm6SBXhbaFdpZHUx3+HYgxhhtJ53r1hBPVhjTHebHTiMsyWvN6 lppxndGlgVSZ+eMcvrUvBPiPeY4f8dY7xg035bBgs8ylHT9ezq8J+iFP4bM0tU35xb T+GW+1oYTAxzfqRPOnlRowu6YwgrOQCeo07sKAW8=
X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9
Received: from [77.87.224.104] ([77.87.224.104]) by web-mail.web.de (3c-app-webde-bap48.server.lan [172.19.172.48]) (via HTTP); Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:30:52 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <trinity-7c3bbfe7-673a-4a7a-b2cc-daf46d7b7c6c-1566556252199@3c-app-webde-bap48>
From: lars.svensson@web.de
To: urn@ietf.org
Cc: Gary Hughes <ghughes1138@gmail.com>, dstoneback@scte.org, paul.woidke@icloud.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:30:52 +0200
Importance: normal
Sensitivity: Normal
In-Reply-To: <87h86ayo55.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com>
References: <CAMDWyD+nMDEf8+YdNW6i5rGzRUC4Pur1rj6ghm4pbugLsXJqrA@mail.gmail.com> <87h86ayo55.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com>
X-UI-Message-Type: mail
X-Priority: 3
X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QMuqmnrqSLDUOZ7GDx5jSymTUmQLeNIvQFGlHKTP5IvMlIysmsoR4mQaCeU6o9xTBOqFJ VV7CSUyifz0O+wYA5ph2DBE3cCGqNCFnMq8/TmumC2o0f8BAcTpMg3X9o8nVfOxXuaJz4nzW2BTs +rEZrOx92CPl0QdtsTek34PDrZtBU1vyjxql6EvJPMsqg2DlWjJ5g9Iw3O+rJzfytUqadIMpKygl h8Z3EFVR7jeaiR+Jid9DEPFSiXSzVVOIrSzyLKdD+vXh+FNIlkrJE8ku6JdLT90Yy5f144ux6Mi+ Pk=
X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:neKqe0nQXus=:PSHqqVa0QAbR3BxubboURJ OuFTO+YZJxxokPBg5C5jUttZfB0CKYhak2LuOoUGFh5+pK+4G2xS+WPqjmi260cxRGDzNWriY YYeTwgZyeJfBugkzkT1pjkTMAt3Af5cjSDrfLD5iAk4/k4m3kMF8hyXPHnA+AlGJVMvDzq2ho TbymGZ0nujyEWsSNb4Dxp2lu3mdiUAzZiibnd8wxyLPjrGWxQa0u+cNijBSyC8zf90fpIMm29 QPGd/9EsgKu6A7UgjGEZBuRcAbNp0DT5OXJfC7RTxwWgjM7jKaPb6EMY4+35lffMpMWgfx0Bc KJbrxzS84kkUMc1MueiHC79tu41L/s4GcPmBBiI5fHO5/SrK6oEKii3subFBRR68BcRHSH9Tc XiNlAtDV9owMaMEYpZyHzTnugaxWDyhCbuUrghUKPO/kKO6L3MgWG82zFxcTTRv5cZEQyetgT XJ0FPhFsiqOxyqcPEI0PuKRVNoTkSzwhBrQBauQFeVB61PBxR8/Ln50vQhzIxbgoW13iLPbWG ccsipbPByknbtBtTFROlnVoZp0BedcgZg7RScOCZzLQgGIfE5CHiimjDYQG7RN746R/3veDtD MEqYY1kXmQQrmXNPLuSeEh0l+hBm2c+yQ4Jl6O9P6JETs/HtdslzU75J6KwjPKOj3XVoFfVwd 6uoz8vqZc1/xCjZReUkAcaLTlrABweXDn77B7Ql7PzrZAGg==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/zMmiHm8-gZ-xfYyKuacmJfr6ToU>
Subject: Re: [urn] URN registration request for SCTE
X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs <urn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/urn>, <mailto:urn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/urn/>
List-Post: <mailto:urn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:urn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn>, <mailto:urn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:44:07 -0000

From me just a minor comment on Dale's comment:

On Donnerstag, 22. August 2019 um 03:39 Uhr "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com> scripsit:

>     The use of URNs should also help specification authors to maintain
>     different versions of URNs and dependencies between URNs across different
>     versions of SCTE specifications if they so wish.
>
> I'm not sure, but I think you want to replace "different versions of
> URNs and dependencies between URNs" with "different versions of
> identifiers and dependencies between ideentifiers" -- because of
> course, the use of URNs is helpful in maintaining different versions
> *of URNs*.  It's more interesting that use of URNs is helpful in
> maintaining different versions of *identifiers* generally.

I read this not so much as "different versions of identifiers" but as "different versions of specifications [identified by identifiers/URNs]", so clarification really seems needed here.

Apart from that I agree with Dale's and Juha's comments.

Best,

Lars