Re: [Uta] mtp-tlsrpt-04 review

Jeremy Harris <jgh@wizmail.org> Wed, 05 April 2017 16:02 UTC

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On 05/04/17 16:46, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jeremy Harris <jgh@wizmail.org> wrote:
>>
>> The example in Appendix 9
> 
> All I see is "Section 10, Appendix 1" and "Section 11, Appendix 2".
> What is "Appendix 9"?

Apologies.  Section 9, being Appendix 2.


>> CNAME indirections should be explicitly discussed
>> (I'd like them permitted).
> 
> Where would you like to see CNAMEs permitted?

Perhaps Section 3, initial paragraph.


> [ Oh, and by the way, it seems the authors have concluded that
>   JSON policy has rough consensus.  I am not sure that's accurate,
>   or at least don't think that accurately represents MTA implementors.
> 
>   Where do you stand on the JSON issue?  I am not looking forward to
>   adding a JSON parser to Postfix, or requiring all the O/S platforms
>   to provide a common C JSON API (is there one that is widely available)
>   as a pre-requisite for installing Postfix. ]

I do not intend to add a JSON parser to Exim, and would make my
anti-bloat views known to any of the other Exim developers.

[I have the same views on any need for https, cf. MTA-STS]


However, I don't think using JSON for the reports defined by this
draft would require an MTA-based parser.

-- 
Cheers,
  Jeremy