Re: [Uta] draft-ietf-uta-xmpp downref

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Mon, 20 April 2015 22:21 UTC

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On 4/20/15 3:02 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> It was pointed out to me that RFC4949 as a normative
> reference here is a downref, and I didn't call that
> out during the IETF LC for this document. (Sorry about
> that.) Oddly, 4949 hasn't previously been added to the
> downref registry. [1]
> 
> So, the choices are:
> 
> 1. make 4949 an informative reference (possible I think but
>    a teeny bit ickky)
> 2. I re-do the IETF LC just for this point and we put 4949
>    into [1] so this won't be a deal for other drafts in
>    future

3. look at precident,

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4949/referencedby/

decide that it's within your power to approve the downref and add it to
the registry

> Authors/chairs/WG: if you don't tell me you prefer #1 above,
> I'll assume #2 and re-start the IETF LC for this one tomorrow.
> 
> For IESG folks: if it's ok, I suggest you continue your
> evaluations and we can handle this via me putting on a DISCUSS.
> If that's bad somehow, just tell me and we can defer the doc
> until the next telechat.
> 
> Cheers,
> S.
> 
> [1] https://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/DownrefRegistry
>