Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-tls-bcp-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com> Fri, 20 February 2015 20:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-tls-bcp-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 2/20/15 1:43 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Stephen Farrell > <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>> wrote: > > >> The sense of the UTA Working Group was to complete >> work on this document about best practices for TLS in >> general, and to >> initiate work on a separate document about opportunistic TLS. > > No, I don't believe we've decided that UTA will be the place where > we develop a BCP on OS. [...] > > I'd really really hope we disentangle that discussion from this > draft though, so please replace the last sentence with: > > "The sense of the UTA Working Group was to complete > work on this document about best practices for TLS in general, and to > for work on a separate BCP document about opportunistic security > to be done later." > > > > FWIW: > - That text is not mine; it has been in since -07. > - I would personally be A-OK with UTA working on opportunistic TLS, > especially in the sense of providing advice on how to interop with old > stuff in ways most likely to result in TLS usage. > - It's probably not a great idea to say that in this document > > How about: > "The sense of the UTA Working Group was to complete work on this > document about best practices for TLS in general, and to leave > recommendations about opportunistic TLS for future work." Or we could drop mention of the WG entirely: "This document specifies best practices for TLS in general. A separate document with recommendations for the use of TLS with opportunistic security is to be completed in the future." pr -- Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/> Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478
- [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-t… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Brian Smith
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Brian Smith
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Ralph Holz
- Re: [Uta] Modular vs. modp Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- [Uta] Modular vs. modp (was: Richard Barnes' Disc… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… t.p.
- Re: [Uta] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-u… Pete Resnick