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Re: [V3] Thoughts on scope for ript

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 25 March 2020 16:28 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 11:27:51 -0500
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To: Victor Vasiliev <vasilvv=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [V3] Thoughts on scope for ript
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This is interesting ...

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:31 AM Victor Vasiliev <vasilvv=
40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I would like to second Justin's point here about the value of a
> client-server RTP streaming by itself (e-f, though in-band c-d are also
> valuable).  There's a lot of value in the world where I can take an HTTP
> URL to some endpoint in the cloud and give it to, say, an IoT camera device
> to use as a realtime media sink, or pass it to an off-the-shelf streaming
> library to show a realtime media source on screen.
>

I know most of my own concerns about RIPT media have started out with "this
won't be as good as RTP for media", but what I've been getting from RIPT
discussions is, that may not matter as much as I expected.

For a use case like Victor's, great media quality would be great, but good
enough media quality may be ... good enough.

Am I putting words in the mouths of the proponents?

Best,

Spencer

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