Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg!
"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Fri, 10 October 2008 15:32 UTC
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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
To: 'Turchanyi Geza' <turchanyi.geza@gmail.com>, 'Rémi Després' <remi.despres@free.fr>
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Subject: Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg!
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> -----Original Message----- > From: v4v6interim-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:v4v6interim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Turchanyi Geza > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:09 AM > To: Rémi Després > Cc: v4v6interim@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! > > Hello, > > Well, SAM is an interesting idea. > > HOWEVER: if we can implement new software (almost)everywhere, than why > not to use IPv6 everywhere? Because there is no content on IPv6 yet. Visit http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?ts_mode=global&lang=none and do AAAA queries against those websites. -d > I missed the point: what can be kept unchanged in the SAM scenario? > > Thanks, > > Geza > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Rémi Després > <remi.despres@free.fr> wrote: > > Iljitsch van Beijnum (m/j/a) 10/7/08 3:46 PM: > >> > >> > >> > http://digg.com/tech_news/IETF_working_on_making_IPv6_and_IPv4 > _talk_to_each_other > > > > Very clear article, and very nice reading :-). > > > > It would have been more accurate, though, if the A+P and > SAM approaches > > would at least have been listed. (Having NAT64, DS Lite and > IVI as the > > complete list of solutions discussed "to make the IPv4 > world talk to the > > (future) IPv6 world" is missing something.) > > > > Worth being remembered: SAM has more potential than other > solutions for > > IPv4-only clients to reach an IPv6 capable server that only > has a shared > > IPv4 address (with a restricted port range, accessible via tunnels). > > > > In particular, in draft-despres-SAM-v4v6coexistenceScenarios-00, > > scenario C is as follows (simplified to have encapsulation > in IPv6 only, > > and complemented to show on it supports connections both ways). > > > > > > > > +------+ +--------+ Global > > | SAM | +---------+ | SAM | Internet > > | host |--site v6--| SAM CPE |-- ISP v6 ----| ISP GW |<--- v4 --> > > +------+ +---------+ +--------+ > > > > SAM <--- v4/v6 -->SAM1 SAM2<---- v4/v6 ---> SAM <----- v4 ----> > > : : : > > '- Port restricted '- Stateless CPE '--- Stateless GW > > socket interface > > > > > > <---- transparency to global v4 packets -----> > > (outgoing AND incoming connections) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > RD > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > v4v6interim mailing list > > v4v6interim@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v4v6interim > > > _______________________________________________ > v4v6interim mailing list > v4v6interim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v4v6interim _______________________________________________ v4v6interim mailing list v4v6interim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v4v6interim
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- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Ed Jankiewicz
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Fred Baker
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Rémi Després
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Turchanyi Geza
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Rémi Després
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Randy Bush
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Dan Wing
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Lars Eggert
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Lars Eggert
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Lars Eggert
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Dan Wing
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Dan Wing
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Lars Eggert
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Fred Baker
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Fred Baker
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Ralph Droms
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! TJ
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Fred Baker
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Iljitsch van Beijnum