Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg!
Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Mon, 13 October 2008 22:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg!
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On Oct 13, 2008, at 5:42 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 7 okt 2008, at 19:26, Fred Baker wrote: > >> What does it mean to be "IPv6-like"? > > That everything happens mostly automatic and is easy otherwise. For > instance, in IPv4 you have to think about how big each subnet is. In > IPv6 you don't. I disagree. The discussion of /48 vs /56 vs /60 vs /64 comes to mind. And btw this is about a IPv4 address, like NAT64 etc are. You make relatively positive statements about the other options and dump on one that has the same strengths and weaknesses. > The IVI mapping means that at the very least a special subnet has to > be created for every IPv4-reachable host. The suggestion of having > non-/64 subnets and DHCPv6 is very problematic because DHCPv6 > doesn't know about subnet prefix lengths. we have a way to assign a prefix using DHCP. You're telling me it doesn't know the prefix length? If so, it's broken. I haven't read that spec; remind me which it is? And yes, regardless of the address format used - even SLACK, for that matter - one has to either inject a host route into routing or inject a prefix into routing. That's how routing works. The only way we can avoid that is to put every mapped-address host on a LAN shared with the translator. Bzzt. That doesn't scale. > The situation where a static mapping is set up means that the > configuration can be limited to the translation box, this simply > makes much more sense on every level. Actually, not so. And this differs from NAT64, which you spoke positively about, in what way? _______________________________________________ v4v6interim mailing list v4v6interim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v4v6interim
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- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Lars Eggert
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Lars Eggert
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Dan Wing
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- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Lars Eggert
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Iljitsch van Beijnum
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- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Fred Baker
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Ralph Droms
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! TJ
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Fred Baker
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [v4v6interim] You have been dugg! Iljitsch van Beijnum