Re: [v6ops] Chair decision on WGLC for draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcp-pd-per-device-04

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 08 November 2023 09:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Chair decision on WGLC for draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcp-pd-per-device-04
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Le 07/11/2023 à 22:12, Owen DeLong a écrit :
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>> On Nov 7, 2023, at 02:34, Philipp S. Tiesel <phils@in-panik.de> wrote:
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>>> On 7. Nov 2023, at 11:12, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
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>>> What's missing here is that we need home routers to reject anything smaller than a /64 in order for this to be a good solution.
>> Do we expect that dhcp-pd-per-device sets standards to ISPs? This would be a great mis-match!
>>
>> If you asked me to draft a minimal recommend pd-sizes BCP, I would probably end up with:
>>
>> Recommend	Minimal
>> /48		/52 	Small/Medium Business broadband
>> /56 		/56	Home User broadband
>> /64 		/64	Cellular handset broadband
>> /64		/80 	Physical Device (e.g. Enterprise client device)
>> /80		/96	Virtual Maschine
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>> The questions are
>> a) Should we write such a document?
>> b) Is it really strongly related to dhcp-pd-per-device?
>> c) Have we any means of enforcing such a BCP?
> I don’t care about such a document one way or the other, but if you were to write it, I’d probably push hard for (at least):
> Recommend	Minimal
> /48			/49 	Small/Medium Business broadband (per site as defined in ARIN policy)
> /48 			/56	Home User broadband
> /62 			/64	Cellular handset broadband (Let’s at least facilitate tethering to Bluetooth and WiFi)
> /64			/80 	Physical Device (e.g. Enterprise client device)
> /64			/96	Virtual Maschine

I support the /62 recommended for cellular handset broadband, rather 
than /64 recommended.

Also, I see Philipp mentions an assignment /64-/80 (recommended and 
minimal) for Enterprise client device.  This Enterprise client device is 
probably inline with ChromeOS and DHCPv6-PD and this pd-per-device 
draft.  I am not sure whether /64-/80 work for this pd-per-device 
draft.  I doubt it does, because of the draft saying 'shorter' without 
saying of what.

Finally, if I suggest an addition line in the table, I would suggest one 
for the automotive industry, for cars in networks.

It should be:

Recommended /60               Minimal /62

Remark that this prefix could be allocated to a car by a cellular 
network, by satcom (e.g. starlink) or by a WiFi network. Sometimes it 
can be allocated by an Enterprise WiFi network in a garage.

Alex

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