[v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 08 August 2024 18:16 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 14:15:23 -0400
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What happened to the updates we talked about earlier (e.g., MUST, and
explaining what "by default" means)? :)

I'm otherwise okay with this text though.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 2:04 PM Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I can get on board with that.
>
> OLD:
>    LPD-7:  The IPv6 CE Router SHOULD by default provision IA_PD IA
> prefixes with a prefix-length of 64.
>
> New:
>    LPD-7:  The IPv6 CE Router SHOULD by default provision IA_PD
> IA prefixes with a prefix-length of 64. The prefix length of 64 is
>    used as that is the current prefix length supported by SLAAC.
>
> ~Tim
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 4:22 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, 7 August 2024 at 20:09
>> *To: *Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
>> *Cc: *Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Nick Buraglio <
>> buraglio@forwardingplane.net>, IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last call:
>> draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 7:24 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown=
>> 40jisc.ac.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, 6 August 2024 at 21:53
>> *To: *Nick Buraglio <buraglio@forwardingplane.net>, IPv6 Operations <
>> v6ops@ietf.org>
>> *Subject: *[v6ops] Correction: Re: Working group Last call:
>> draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd
>>
>> I support the draft going forward.
>>
>> I do have one comment on the scope of the document. I believe that it
>> should also cover use of PD for a locally assigned ULA prefix. Please don't
>> turn this into another endless ULA thread - but if the CE has assigned a
>> ULA prefix, and supports PD for a GUA prefix, it should also support PD for
>> the ULA prefix.
>>
>>
>>
>> This seems reasonable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Should /64 be hard coded in the document, or should it refer to a prefix
>> of the length required to support SLAAC as currently defined?
>>
>> I'm concerned this will cause confusion amongst the CE Router community
>> if I don't put an actual number.  If you really want we can 64 is based on
>> the prefix length of SLAAC as currently defined.  How strong do you feel
>> about this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Not strongly, but the WG has of late been trying not to unnecessarily
>> hard code the 64 into documents. If 64 is used, then a short statement as
>> to why would be good.
>>
>>
>>
>> The pd-per-device draft uses /64 in an example and says “Note that the prefix lengths used in the example are /64 because that is the prefix length currently supported by SLAAC and is not otherwise required by the proposed deployment model” and says a little more on /64 in section 8 which also refers to RFC 7084, and in section 11. The 64 isn’t “hard coded” in there, in that its use in the example is clearly explained.
>>
>> Minor nit – the “addresses” at the end of para 1 of the intro should
>> probably say “prefixes”.
>>
>> thanks, fixed in -03.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> (There are several grammatical nits in the Introduction. I'll send them
>> to the author off-list.)
>>
>> Regards
>>      Brian Carpenter
>>
>> On 07-Aug-24 03:18, Nick Buraglio wrote:
>> > All,
>> >
>> > This message begins the working group last call for
>> draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd. Please read the draft and send your comments
>> in response to this email.
>> >
>> > The draft can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd/ <
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd/>
>> >
>> > nb
>> >
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