[v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 08 August 2024 18:16 UTC
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Subject: [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd
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What happened to the updates we talked about earlier (e.g., MUST, and explaining what "by default" means)? :) I'm otherwise okay with this text though. On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 2:04 PM Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > I can get on board with that. > > OLD: > LPD-7: The IPv6 CE Router SHOULD by default provision IA_PD IA > prefixes with a prefix-length of 64. > > New: > LPD-7: The IPv6 CE Router SHOULD by default provision IA_PD > IA prefixes with a prefix-length of 64. The prefix length of 64 is > used as that is the current prefix length supported by SLAAC. > > ~Tim > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 4:22 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> >> >> >> *From: *Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> >> *Date: *Wednesday, 7 August 2024 at 20:09 >> *To: *Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> >> *Cc: *Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Nick Buraglio < >> buraglio@forwardingplane.net>, IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org> >> *Subject: *Re: [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last call: >> draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 7:24 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown= >> 40jisc.ac.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> *From: *Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> >> *Date: *Tuesday, 6 August 2024 at 21:53 >> *To: *Nick Buraglio <buraglio@forwardingplane.net>, IPv6 Operations < >> v6ops@ietf.org> >> *Subject: *[v6ops] Correction: Re: Working group Last call: >> draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd >> >> I support the draft going forward. >> >> I do have one comment on the scope of the document. I believe that it >> should also cover use of PD for a locally assigned ULA prefix. Please don't >> turn this into another endless ULA thread - but if the CE has assigned a >> ULA prefix, and supports PD for a GUA prefix, it should also support PD for >> the ULA prefix. >> >> >> >> This seems reasonable. >> >> >> >> Should /64 be hard coded in the document, or should it refer to a prefix >> of the length required to support SLAAC as currently defined? >> >> I'm concerned this will cause confusion amongst the CE Router community >> if I don't put an actual number. If you really want we can 64 is based on >> the prefix length of SLAAC as currently defined. How strong do you feel >> about this? >> >> >> >> Not strongly, but the WG has of late been trying not to unnecessarily >> hard code the 64 into documents. If 64 is used, then a short statement as >> to why would be good. >> >> >> >> The pd-per-device draft uses /64 in an example and says “Note that the prefix lengths used in the example are /64 because that is the prefix length currently supported by SLAAC and is not otherwise required by the proposed deployment model” and says a little more on /64 in section 8 which also refers to RFC 7084, and in section 11. The 64 isn’t “hard coded” in there, in that its use in the example is clearly explained. >> >> Minor nit – the “addresses” at the end of para 1 of the intro should >> probably say “prefixes”. >> >> thanks, fixed in -03. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> (There are several grammatical nits in the Introduction. I'll send them >> to the author off-list.) >> >> Regards >> Brian Carpenter >> >> On 07-Aug-24 03:18, Nick Buraglio wrote: >> > All, >> > >> > This message begins the working group last call for >> draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd. Please read the draft and send your comments >> in response to this email. >> > >> > The draft can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd/ < >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd/> >> > >> > nb >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org >> >> _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org >
- [v6ops] Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v6ops… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Correction: Re: Working group Last call: … Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Jen Linkova
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters