Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to working group draft

David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net> Tue, 23 July 2019 13:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to working group draft
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+1

-David

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 08:02:30AM -0400, Timothy Winters wrote:
> I also think this should be working group draft, as I mentioned at the mic
> I'm happy to help survey what current implementations are capable of.
> 
> I also agree with Lozenzo last statement.
> 
> ~Tim
> 
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:39 AM Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 1) Yes, we should *obviously* do this.
> > 2) If the charter prevents that, fix the charter.
> > 3) I'm not convinced it needs to update 4861. If what it does is explain
> > the conditions in which an RFC2119 "SHOULD" should be ignored, that is
> > *not* an update to the standard. To me it sounds exactly like a Best
> > Current Practice.
> > 4) In any case, if the IETF rules are alleged to prevent doing the obvious
> > right thing, the IESG can vary the rules, as allowed by BCP9.
> >
> > Regards
> >    Brian Carpenter
> >
> > On 23-Jul-19 20:29, Fred Baker wrote:
> > > In yesterday's meeting, the sense of the room and a discussion of
> > charters at the mike suggested that draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init
> > should become a working group draft. Doing so will require 6man to agree to
> > let v6ops suggest specific changes to RFC 4861 under the rubric of
> > "operational solutions", as discussed in the draft and
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-v6ops-neighbor-cache-entries-on-first-hop-routers-operational-considerations-00;
> > the argument for not kicking those out to 6man is that the authors of RFC
> > 4861 are no longer in a position to approve errata to it, which would be
> > the other obvious approach (I'm not sure that's true of Erik Nordmark, but
> > whatever). It would also need to be considered to update RFC 4861.
> > >
> > > Do we agree to take draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init as a working group
> > draft?
> > >
> > > Ron and I look through this thread next week and take the necessary
> > action, whatever the outcome might be.
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