Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to working group draft
David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net> Tue, 23 July 2019 13:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to working group draft
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+1 -David On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 08:02:30AM -0400, Timothy Winters wrote: > I also think this should be working group draft, as I mentioned at the mic > I'm happy to help survey what current implementations are capable of. > > I also agree with Lozenzo last statement. > > ~Tim > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:39 AM Brian E Carpenter < > brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 1) Yes, we should *obviously* do this. > > 2) If the charter prevents that, fix the charter. > > 3) I'm not convinced it needs to update 4861. If what it does is explain > > the conditions in which an RFC2119 "SHOULD" should be ignored, that is > > *not* an update to the standard. To me it sounds exactly like a Best > > Current Practice. > > 4) In any case, if the IETF rules are alleged to prevent doing the obvious > > right thing, the IESG can vary the rules, as allowed by BCP9. > > > > Regards > > Brian Carpenter > > > > On 23-Jul-19 20:29, Fred Baker wrote: > > > In yesterday's meeting, the sense of the room and a discussion of > > charters at the mike suggested that draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init > > should become a working group draft. Doing so will require 6man to agree to > > let v6ops suggest specific changes to RFC 4861 under the rubric of > > "operational solutions", as discussed in the draft and > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-v6ops-neighbor-cache-entries-on-first-hop-routers-operational-considerations-00; > > the argument for not kicking those out to 6man is that the authors of RFC > > 4861 are no longer in a position to approve errata to it, which would be > > the other obvious approach (I'm not sure that's true of Erik Nordmark, but > > whatever). It would also need to be considered to update RFC 4861. > > > > > > Do we agree to take draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init as a working group > > draft? > > > > > > Ron and I look through this thread next week and take the necessary > > action, whatever the outcome might be. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > v6ops mailing list > > > v6ops@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops > > > . > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > v6ops mailing list > > v6ops@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops > > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
- [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to work… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Timothy Winters
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … David Lamparter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Igor Gashinsky
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … David Lamparter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … David Lamparter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … David Lamparter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … David Lamparter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] draft-linkova-v6ops-nd-cache-init to … Erik Nygren