Re: [v6ops] draft-vf-v6ops-ipv6-deployment

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From: "nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com" <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com>
To: Paolo Volpato <paolo.volpato@huawei.com>, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-vf-v6ops-ipv6-deployment
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Dhruv & Paolo,
> I think we should highlight that we do not have visibility inside the enterprises beyond the external-facing website or email and >thus it is also difficult to gauge the IPv6 deployments inside enterprises.


Large enterprises will have external connections to the Internet which can be monitored via services which can be accessed publicly such as DNS and web.
They will also generally have very large private networks which cannot be accessed publicly.   These may included connections to business partners and government agencies (Medicare, Social Security, Federal Reserve, IRS, etc).  It is very difficult to tell what is going on inside those networks because they are private.   And these companies are not keen to be forthcoming about their topology.
At our non-profit, Industry Network Technology Council, we did a poll to such large organizations asking about IPv6 implementation inside their org and got about 50 responses.  This is a non-scientific poll and the respondents are self-selecting.  But the result would lead me to think that there is a spectrum.  Some have blocked IPv6 while others are dual-stacking.     
We will continue to pursue.
Thanks,

Nalini Elkins
CEO and Founder
Inside Products, Inc.
www.insidethestack.com
(831) 659-8360 

    On Tuesday, March 23, 2021, 12:39:56 AM EDT, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Hi Paolo,

> I think we should highlight that we do not have visibility inside the enterprises beyond the external-facing website or email and thus it is also difficult to gauge the IPv6 deployments inside enterprises.
>
> [PV] Ok. Probably here you refer to small-medium enterprises. For large enterprises public data on the usage of IPv6 can be retrieved (Nalini, in copy, provided a good input on IPv6 in large organizations). We will better specify this point in the next version of the draft.
>

I had this NIST data in mind -
https://fedv6-deployment.antd.nist.gov/cgi-bin/generate-com which
includes large enterprises and relies on DNS, mail, external website.
Also, see Eric's site -
https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/detailed.php?country=in

Thanks!
Dhruv