Re: [v6ops] draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalability
Gábor LENCSE <lencse@hit.bme.hu> Mon, 27 June 2022 07:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalability
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Dear Brian, Thank you, I will do so. Best regards, Gábor 2022.06.27. 0:10 keltezéssel, Brian E Carpenter írta: > Hi Gábor, > > I think your suggestion at the end is a good one. This topic is > important, and such measurements will be useful, and an > overview/summary as an RFC seems valuable too. Maybe your I-D needs to > continue as a living repository for a while, until you have advanced > in your project. > > Regards > Brian > > On 27-Jun-22 07:02, Gábor LENCSE wrote: >> Dear Brian, >> >> Thank you very much for your review and comments! Please see my >> answers inline. >> >> 2022.06.19. 23:08 keltezéssel, Brian E Carpenter írta: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Looking at this, it's very interesting, but it reads more like a >>> paper I'd expect to see presented at a measurement conference than >>> an IETF document. >> >> You are completely wright: I can't deny that I am an academic >> researcher and my main research area is benchmarking. :-) >> >> I still hope that my results regarding the scalability of the various >> IPv4aaS IPv6 transitions will be useful for the IPv6 network operators. >> >> *Operators, please let me know, what you think!* >> >> (If the operators do not find this draft useful, then I should rather >> write academic papers from these measurement results.) >> >>> Viewed that way, it seems to lack two aspects: >>> >>> 1) An introduction that provides background and context for the >>> reader - for example, it assumes that the reader knows what >>> 'iptables' is, and what 'Jool' is. >> >> Thank you, I will add this information in the next version. >>> >>> >>> 2) A summary of the results and a discussion of what they mean, and >>> what the next steps should be. >> >> I can add the analysis of the results easily, but regarding the "next >> steps" I am in a trouble. I mean that what I want to do is to measure >> the scalability of the various implementations of the different >> technologies, but, I feel that I should leave the decision for the >> operators, which technology and which implementation they want to >> use. Scalability is only one aspect of these technologies. There are >> a lot of other aspects discussed in "Pros and Cons of IPv6 Transition >> Technologies for IPv4aaS" available from: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-comparison >> (My current draft intends to support that one with measurement >> results regarding the scalability of the technologies.) >> >>> >>> With that content added, we could evaluate whether it fits in the IETF. >> >> In fact, the current version is only a kind of a "trailer" of what I >> want to do, that is, the scalability analysis of the most important >> free software implementations of all five IPv4aaS solutions (464XLAT, >> DS-Lite, MAP-E, MAP-T, lw4o6). It will be a lot of work and time. >> >> Brian, as you know the academic world well, I would like to ask your >> advise. Perhaps, I should publish open access journal papers about >> the details the benchmarking of each technology, and include their >> findings into this draft. Thus the operators can find a good overview >> and they can check all the details in the papers. >> >> What do you think of it? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Gábor >> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> Brian Carpenter >>> >>> On 20-Jun-22 06:00, Fred Baker wrote: >>>> With this email, let me invite commentary >>>> on draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalability. Please read the draft >>>> and raise any issues you might have with it. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> v6ops mailing list >>>> v6ops@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >>> _______________________________________________ >>> v6ops mailing list >>> v6ops@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> v6ops mailing list >> v6ops@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >
- [v6ops] draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalability Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalabi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalabi… Gábor LENCSE
- Re: [v6ops] draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalabi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalabi… Gábor LENCSE