Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt - Privacy Properties

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Thu, 20 July 2017 17:08 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:07:50 +0200
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On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:

> > There are lots of different types of campus, and campus type networks.
>
> Well, the discussion was around best practice discussion, and in that
> light eduroam should be aspirational. It’s deployed in 70-80 countries, but
> the underlying 802.1x can be used in any campus, and on wired links as well.
>

Which is, of course, technically a much better solution than relying on
insecure DHCPv6.

Additionally, there's the option of doing /64 per host (via RAs) in the
enterprise. Same tracking and authorization properties, but no limitation
on the number of addresses that can be used.